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amungus
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join:2004-11-26
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amungus

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trust

It's hard to have any trust that such a device would NOT be used for all manner of debauchery, whether that's at the hands of bored hackers / creepers (see this: »arstechnica.com/tech-pol ··· webcams/) or bored gov't hackers / creepers.

Let's face it, not many people are going to bother taking wireshark to their connection and seeing exactly what's being passed on the wire from this thing. Even then, if anyone's read anything about the way MS passed on info to the NSA, they'd know that encryption has zero bearing on their privacy of communication to/from MS (edit: see 1st post for example!).
In other words, even if all you see is "normal" traffic to MS and back, you'd have absolutely no way of knowing if a quick jpeg was captured in there, or if chunks of audio were being passed along.

Welcome to the telescreen machine.
How long before all TVs are required to include such tech?
houghe9
join:2008-02-27
Lexington Park, MD

houghe9

Member

said by amungus:

It's hard to have any trust that such a device would NOT be used for all manner of debauchery, whether that's at the hands of bored hackers / creepers (see this: »arstechnica.com/tech-pol ··· webcams/) or bored gov't hackers / creepers.

Let's face it, not many people are going to bother taking wireshark to their connection and seeing exactly what's being passed on the wire from this thing. Even then, if anyone's read anything about the way MS passed on info to the NSA, they'd know that encryption has zero bearing on their privacy of communication to/from MS (edit: see 1st post for example!).
In other words, even if all you see is "normal" traffic to MS and back, you'd have absolutely no way of knowing if a quick jpeg was captured in there, or if chunks of audio were being passed along.

Welcome to the telescreen machine.
How long before all TVs are required to include such tech?

i cant believe there is no way to disable this. lets see 1 device used by millions nah nobody will try to hack it. its a hackers wet dream.

aaronwt
Premium Member
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
Asus RT-AX89

aaronwt

Premium Member

said by houghe9:

said by amungus:

It's hard to have any trust that such a device would NOT be used for all manner of debauchery, whether that's at the hands of bored hackers / creepers (see this: »arstechnica.com/tech-pol ··· webcams/) or bored gov't hackers / creepers.

Let's face it, not many people are going to bother taking wireshark to their connection and seeing exactly what's being passed on the wire from this thing. Even then, if anyone's read anything about the way MS passed on info to the NSA, they'd know that encryption has zero bearing on their privacy of communication to/from MS (edit: see 1st post for example!).
In other words, even if all you see is "normal" traffic to MS and back, you'd have absolutely no way of knowing if a quick jpeg was captured in there, or if chunks of audio were being passed along.

Welcome to the telescreen machine.
How long before all TVs are required to include such tech?

i cant believe there is no way to disable this. lets see 1 device used by millions nah nobody will try to hack it. its a hackers wet dream.

There are over 25 million Kinect 1.0 devices out there. Did it get hacked? I have no idea.
Rekrul
join:2007-04-21
Milford, CT

Rekrul

Member

said by aaronwt:

There are over 25 million Kinect 1.0 devices out there. Did it get hacked? I have no idea.

Is the Kinect 1.0 fully integrated into the system such that it can used as a webcam or make Skype calls?