Something changed, and if it isn't a bug, I don't/do like it
You can argue your objection (or support) of a cosmetic changes in site layout, navigation, colors that may have appeared suddenly, into this topic. The objection will be deleted if it isn't reasoned. It will also be deleted, if it is just chit-chat.
Did the number of topics per page in the forum listings change? It seems to be fewer by quite a bit. Plus, I don't remember the number being the same as for the number of posts per page for a topic (because that would have made them really short @ 20 per). It seems like there should be closer to twice as many as there are now (I used to scroll more). I think at least a 2:1 ratio (topics:posts) would be preferable, maybe even 3:1 (more topics on the page for the same reason as having more posts on a page).
If I change my setting to default, there are 30 topics per page in a forum. Also if I logout, that is the same: 30 topics per page. Is that not correct?
Logged in, yeah, that's the new default. Logged out I don't know about--haven't checked. Some forum pages I've gone to--like the site help--weren't even as much as 1 window's worth (not even 30, maybe not even 20). Given the new default, I'd rather have 40 or even 60 topics per page, but I don't want that many posts per topic; in fact, I'd rather have the old default value of 20 for the posts per page--I just don't want to set the topics per page that low.
Perhaps, but I'll try 50 for awhile--most topics don't exceed 20 posts by much if at all, and it's not like I generally have to review a "full" page most of the time either, just the latest few posts as they arrive.
When you get around to looking at the themes, instead of being transparent, I think the background-color for the 'Group' td should be the same as the 'Topic' td (.td_topic), to keep it consistent with the theme colors instead of it defaulting to the page color. (As to whether I think the Group cell/column is desirable at all... still thinking... )
It isn't that useful until groups within forums are better named, and better used. I think it is useful to be able to view and work with a subset of a forum by group name, but only if the groups are logical and consistently used (and can be navigated properly). It'll be a moderation thing in the end, to keep a tidy forum.
I don't have a "group-based" view of the forums [yet]. For now I'm still topic-oriented, and I think having the group name (aka filter aka tag aka label etc.) disassociated from the topic only slows things down when reviewing the list of topics for things of interest... but I'm in no hurry to make any kind of judgement about it. So, for now it's just wait 'n' see how it develops.
Did you consider putting the paper clip (attachment indicator) at the the end, after the OP link?
Every time I see it in the topic list now, I say to myself, "I think it would look better if that were last." (just something else to think about... whenever)
I never did enjoy scrolling, even BEFORE the Internet began.
Scrolling mouses made this more tolerable, and wide profile (aka less tall) screens made it worse.
Windows 7 also took some of our usable page area away with its tall blank top borders.
I never bothered to change the topic/posts per page settings away from the defaults in all of the time I have participated here, so that was my frame of reference for DSLR/BBR forums.
Recent Observations :
A few days after the server migration at DSLR, I began to notice some changes, and posted about them here : »New Forum Page Settings on DSLR
Next, I read about the current thread and reviewed my settings, and they were still at 'defaults'.
What I noticed in changes was that if left at default, and while logged in, posts per topic page went from 20 previously to 30 now, and topics per forum header page went from 30 or more previously, down to 20 now.
I never view the forums while logged out, so what happens then ? - Not important to me.
Opinions :
Pro : Having only 20 topics per forum header page now just happens to fit my screen, a 4x3 profile flat panel running at 1280x1024 res, WITHOUT scrolling !
Topics fall off the first page sooner, but I think I can live with that.
Con : Having a different number of posts per topic page irks me, as I often remembered on what page a post was located when looking for it. - Also, more scrolling is needed if 30 posts per page rather than 20.
Long-winded posters such as myself only serve to exascerbate this issue.
Also, I save topic pages offline sometimes, and any changes there upsets my page-numbering arrangement.
Workaround(s) :
What will work for ME (though YMMV) is now setting to override the defaults to 20 in the settings.
This gives me back my familiar 20 posts per topic page, and gives the newly observed 20 topics per forum header page as well (as the 2 settings are tied in one pulldown menu), and I think that I'll be OK with that.
Suggestion(s) :
Make the above-mentioned configurable settings for the forum and topic pages independently adjustable.
Other folks may feel that they need this change moreso than myself.
Thanks for reading.
-- We have only 2 things about which to worry : (1) That things may never get back to normal (2) That they already HAVE !
Re: Something changed, and if it isn't a bug, I don't/do like it
I made a switch from the mouse to the apple touch pad and wow I should have done this when they first came out. Gestures rock. The pad loses little if anything to the mouse in accuracy but is much nicer. No more mice, sorry Mitchell and Webb:
The time is based off your local timezone, so it is very easy to figure out: if something was posted 42 minutes ago, it was posted 42 minutes from whatever time it is in your area.
I'm not sure why it is of interest to know the hour and minute that something was posted if it was posted in the last hour. Prior to the last hour, it does says the time, again local time to you.
I was thinking it might be "nice" to display the group name--when one exists for a topic--at the start of the nicertitle preview pop-up text--similar to the way it's displayed on the subject line: [groupname] (but I haven't really decided if I think it's a good idea or not--just something to consider).
OK, that sorta works, but--before, the box would just open nicely where you were; now, the page jumps with the box partially obscured below the window. Of the two behaviors, I liked the "smoothness" of the way it was before--even with the extra click required.
Edit: well, you seem to be trying to position the box at the bottom of the window--which is fine, but the current positioning hides the "controls" (buttons/links below the box). So, part of the form is below the split and part is above; really want the whole thing to be in view.
I think right now at 30 topics per page it is ok, at least until there are split configuration for topics-per-page and posts-per-topic.
I had not yet checked my config settings for this when I first read your post, but after reviewing the thread today, it looks like you were thinking the same thing here as I ended up suggesting at the end of my long post - y'know, that post which made you sleepy.
I like that youtube embeds are finally updated to be widescreen and allow fullscreen.
I dislike the removal of of the "slow reply" buttons from individual posts. I understand the need though, there's not much point in having two different reply buttons. I'll deal with the extra click-through to get to the traditional reply screen.
I like that youtube embeds are finally updated to be widescreen and allow fullscreen.
I dislike the removal of of the "slow reply" buttons from individual posts. I understand the need though, there's not much point in having two different reply buttons. I'll deal with the extra click-through to get to the traditional reply screen....
I'm neutral on the You Tube change.
The reply thing, I just noticed this morning (was it changed before that ?), and perhaps what if you were to set it to default to the Longer reply and have an internal link/button to the Quick reply ? - Or was that what we had before ? (If true I had not used it)
Timestamps are fine either way for me.
@ Justin :
I DO like trackpads in general, but currently don't employ one, as my trusty old Thinkpad still uses a 'The Stick', and I have gotten accustomed to that, while I have a regular Logitech scroll mouse on my console switch for my desktop PCs.
SOME PC-based notebooks do not have a way to adjust the 'Tap to Click' sensitivity on internal trackpads (older units generally did), and I'm grumpy at the software developers over THAT 'improvement'.
Does Apple let the user adjust that, and they DO make a model of trackpad which I could plug into a PC, right ?
This way of posting date information on posts looks lazy to me. I'd like to see full date information just as before. Even if it was only "Yesterday", I prefer full date format.
To avoid duplicating, I often post links to old posts. Now I don't see how I can get a link (URI) to specific post... The useful button, used for that purpose, has disappeared. -- Keep it simple, it'll become complex by itself...
No, I would rather like to see this as a user selectable setting if possible. Not global across the site by default. I shouldn't have to hover over each "Yesterday/Today" to see proper date information. -- "Graffiti Wall" Dustyn's Wall »[Serious] RIP
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