 Paralel join:2011-03-24 Michigan, US kudos:4 2 edits | reply to WhyMe420
Re: faster Uverse speeds (Project VIP) coming soon? said by WhyMe420:Are you on the 32/5 profile right now? If so, it doesn't make any sense at all that you can't get the 45/6 seeing as all it needs is a couple of 27/3 lines. Yes, I am currently on a 32/5 profile and it works quite well. My max attainable rate is ~50000 kbps, S/N ratio is ~15.0, FECs are less than 10k per day on average, no CRCs, even during an electrical storm.
However, the Deathstar is completely impervious to logic at every single level, so I am just screwed. |
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 morboComplete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000 | reply to morbo
When will the Uverse speeds be available to AT&T Southwest customers? I've heard sometime in September and before the end of the year. It's almost the end of September... |
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 Paralel join:2011-03-24 Michigan, US kudos:4 | reply to tauwyt
The escalation people finally came through and said they are coming on Monday to get my second pair hooked up. Yay!
If for some reason they don't show up on Monday, the words that will be used here will probably cause you to go temporarily blind if you read them. |
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 Merlin join:2012-06-08 Dallas, TX | reply to morbo
If you are referring to the new Power tier, it will be available in the Southwest region on 9/30. |
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Anyone seeing faster speeds on there 24/3 connection. Before I was barely able to pull in 23 to 23.5. Now I am seeing a consistent 25.5 down and 2.90 up. I am in SoCal
Ignore my low Noise Margin. I use Power line adapters due to the crappy wiresless and it dips my Noise Margin from 13.2 to 12.8-12.5


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 | said by vengance01:Anyone seeing faster speeds on there 24/3 connection Hmm, I'm getting 25.38 down and 2.87 up. I've never managed to get over 23 down and 2.5 up before. |
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 | I wonder if this is ATT's free boost for Turbo users. Glad its not only me I will gladly take the free small bump. |
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 | Dunno. However, I just checked my other 24/3 line and it's pulling down at 24.98. I've never seen either of my lines getting over ~23 down and ~2.5 up before. The upload is what I really care about so I'm thrilled to see both lines getting closer to 3 up now. |
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 3 edits | reply to vengance01 hmm what I find interesting is your Calc Raw Line Rate is higher than the max rate? Okay here is what my uncle had for a snapshot today I am curious is the max rate supposed to be lower than the Calc Raw Line Rate? so if per say my uncle was provisioned for 50Mbps could he get it on single pair with that? I see a Calc Raw Line Rate of 50Mbps on that line and a Max of 47Mbps so does that mean that that my uncle could get close to 60Mbps downstream after FEC overhead if all bits were used? As you can see the line capacity is only at 56% I wonder if At&t could do a 45/6 test on his line and it pass? |
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 | said by motorola870:hmm what I find interesting is your Calc Raw Line Rate is higher than the max rate?
On one of my lines, the "Calc Raw Line Rate" is higher and on the other it isn't. |
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 | hmm maybe they are going to push a 40/5 profile for single pairs maybe this is the rumored 30 down upgrade? |
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 | Hmm, take a look at my two screenshots. The raw line rate is identical for both lines. That's a bit odd. |
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said by doubleohwhat:said by motorola870:hmm what I find interesting is your Calc Raw Line Rate is higher than the max rate?
On one of my lines, the "Calc Raw Line Rate" is higher and on the other it isn't. okay looks like you have a new firmware verison for the 3801HGV than this snapshot I took a few weeks ago on my grandmothers line which had the dreaded 19/2 profile that I got at&t to bump to 25/2  hmm I wonder if they could get my grandmothers line to 32/5 with conditioning? I think there is a bridge tap somewhere? |
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 | said by motorola870:okay looks like you have a new firmware verison for the 3801HGV I would imagine it has auto-updated by now. Mine pulled down the new firmware well over a month ago.
said by motorola870:hmm I wonder if they could get my grandmothers line to 32/5 with conditioning? Never hurts to look into it. I wouldn't expect miracles if the lines in the area are ancient though. Everything here is brand spanking new(VRAD, pedestal, all lines, etc) and the tech still had to spend a couple of hours trying to get a clean pair for my second line. |
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 1 edit | tried already all they would commit to was the upping from 19/2 to 25/2 and her line was replaced earlier this year and they gave her the 3801HGV when they did that as her line was trash as every time it would storm it would go and it would tile a lot as well. I think something is wrong somewhere if she is getting 33Mbps down and 2 MBps up after FEC not to mention only 1700ft from VRAD on a single pair so I think there is noise on the line or a bridge tap is messing with the line but also I noticed two upstreams in use 0 and 1 what the heck is that about? she has a sliver on the page with the green and gold bit loading graph to the left of the 1st downstream in use for upstream I am wondering if Uverse in her area is not capable of 32/5Mbps? I have only seen upstream 0 used in this instance and not any other one so far. Edit: okay why would my grand mother have upstream 0 and upstream 1 if she is not on an INID install? unless At&t is trying to push Uverse farther out where she is at and maybe the VRAD is configured wrong? I know she has VDSL2 over a single so that isn't an issue but why use upstream 0 when you have 1 in use? said by doubleohwhat:said by motorola870:okay looks like you have a new firmware verison for the 3801HGV I would imagine it has auto-updated by now. Mine pulled down the new firmware well over a month ago. said by motorola870:hmm I wonder if they could get my grandmothers line to 32/5 with conditioning? Never hurts to look into it. I wouldn't expect miracles if the lines in the area are ancient though. Everything here is brand spanking new(VRAD, pedestal, all lines, etc) and the tech still had to spend a couple of hours trying to get a clean pair for my second line. |
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 | If you haven't already, I'd post in the Direct forum and see what David and crew can do for you as far as getting the line looked at by a knowledgeable tech.
I've never really had an issue getting a tech out to take a look at a line. However, I'm also paying the business price for two 24/3 lines. So that may factor into their willingness to roll a truck. Dunno. |
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 | I really don't want a truck roll because my grandmother will gripe she is in her late 70s pushing 80. I am curious as to why it is like that though she has better service now I am just going to have to sit it out and wait for 17a to roll out unless Uverse requires a swapout of all gateways for newer ones and does pair bonding on all lines.
I got her to at least 4 streams though her TV profile was all messed up: 0SD/3HD WAN 0SD/3HD Ingress 0SD/3HD Egress
all on the 19/2 tier which must be new and now she has 1SD/3HD ingress and more breathing room for internet and TV to coexist. said by doubleohwhat:If you haven't already, I'd post in the Direct forum and see what David and crew can do for you as far as getting the line looked at by a knowledgeable tech.
I've never really had an issue getting a tech out to take a look at a line. However, I'm also paying the business price for two 24/3 lines. So that may factor into their willingness to roll a truck. Dunno.
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 | Sounds about like my aunt. She technically should be able to get on the 32/5 profile but she's getting up there in age and what she has now (25/2) works well enough for her needs. She's rarely on the internet while watching TV anyway. So I just decided it wasn't worth the hassle. |
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 | yeah my grandmother doesn't have an HDTV but being on the wrong profile is not good because I think she has the 10Mbps internet tier and still even though see only has SD before she could only stream 3 SD channels as the profile was only showing 3 streams and here is the thing most people don't know this but every Uverse subscriber has HD access just not full HD access there is some info channel that At&t has that is authorized for all accounts even if you don't have HD I think it is the Buzz channel or ATTention channel? said by doubleohwhat:Sounds about like my aunt. She technically should be able to get on the 32/5 profile but she's getting up there in age and what she has now (25/2) works well enough for her needs. She's rarely on the internet while watching TV anyway. So I just decided it wasn't worth the hassle.
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 | I'm clueless when it comes to U-verse TV. I'm a satellite guy. Satellite is far from perfect but it works just fine after a tornado knocks down lines. |
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 morboComplete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000 Reviews:
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said by Merlin:If you are referring to the new Power tier, it will be available in the Southwest region on 9/30.
Thanks for the info. |
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 Paralel join:2011-03-24 Michigan, US kudos:4 | reply to motorola870
Moto870, I doubt that line would ever be able to support 32/5, unless there are some major issues that were missed. It is well short of the minimum necessary. |
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 Paralel join:2011-03-24 Michigan, US kudos:4 | reply to morbo
Bonded pair installation completed!
I got a solid distance reading with a JDSU TDR, I'm at 2219 ft. NOT 3123 ft.
Ran into a bit of an issue during the install. The second pair they wanted to use was bunk. They sent out I/R and got it taken care of.
After everything was done initially the stats were not good. My primary line dropped from ~50k sync to ~35k sync, TV was in and out, but whatever it was straightened itself out. Line 1 is back to 50k.
My second line is in major trouble though. It's losing sync, jumping from a max rate of ~46k, down to a max rate of ~6K, generating hundreds of thousands of FECs, tend of thousands of CRCs, etc... I have no idea what is going on with it. It's causing my connection, my TV, and my phone to go in and out.
Edit: Okay, now the line has stabilized. This is strange. It was stable for four hours, then it went nuts for an hour, then stabilized again. I hope this won't be a frequent occurrence. |
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 Paralel join:2011-03-24 Michigan, US kudos:4 | Here are my current line stats. Not bad for 2219 ft, on a pair of F-Cards:

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 sloe join:2007-11-09 San Antonio, TX Reviews:
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Well, they've certainly changed up something.
Four days ago:


Just now:

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 gerick join:2001-01-17 San Antonio, TX | According to SamKnows, my speed went from 17.20 to 21.40 on 19-SEP-13 between 0200 and 0400. |
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 Paralel join:2011-03-24 Michigan, US kudos:4 | reply to tauwyt
Line #2 definitely has trouble. The pair become unbalance, 41 on one line, 14 on the other, after a huge number of FECs and 10's of thousands of CRCs. |
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| reply to Paralel I didn't realize how much attenuation increases with distance... I'm 1000ft from VRAD, on F-Cards as well.. -- Hinsdale, IL - »www.billhamel.net |
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 Paralel join:2011-03-24 Michigan, US kudos:4 | reply to morbo
Even after rebooting the gateway, the pair is still unbalanced. Also, the max attainable rate on line one also dropped ~5k. Even at the much lower rate line #2 is still generating CRCs:

The heavy loading on line 1 is pushing the S/N ratio too low. Put in a call to the tech that did the install. Hope he'll get back to me about this. |
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 whamelbillhamel DOT netPremium join:2002-05-09 Hinsdale, IL kudos:8 Reviews:
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That's crazy...funny thing is, I just drove by my crossbox and my prem tech that did the original install for the power tier was at the crossbox...He was trying to fix a line like urs... But this was my pics of the JDSU, the left pic is one pair synced, and connected at crossbox I still got a distance reading of 200ft and attenuation of 1.4dB. My SNR isn't much different at the crossbox and at the RG though... -- Hinsdale, IL - »www.billhamel.net |
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