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bonbonbonbon

@comcast.net

QAM Feed: Seattle, WA

forgive me if I sound a bit technically challenged here, but can anyone tell me what the new QAM channels are for Fox and the CW in the Seattle/Tacoma area? googling this has yielded me no results, and I can't figure out how I can get this info.

background: I've been recording limited basic cable through my PC using a digital tuner (QAM 256). several months ago it stopped picking up three channels and I had to manually add them. it was KCPQ-DT (fox), KSTW-DT (the CW), and CBC. the new QAM numbers assigned to them were 111.1, 111.2, and 60.2 respectively. anyway, this week, comcast must have moved the first two because they once again stopped working on my PC and my regular TV.

I rescanned my TV and it picked up the missing channels just fine. but rescanning with my PC never works well - I often have to manually add a few channels. (I'm using windows media center, which sucks, but it's a DVR that I don't have to pay a monthly fee so I try to keep it chugging along.)

So anyway, can anyone tell me the QAM numbers for these two channels for the seattle area? And how does one get this info? Last time I lucked out and found it on the internets, but I'm having no such luck now.

SpHeRe31459
Premium
join:2002-10-09
Sacramento, CA
kudos:2
»www.silicondust.com/support/channels/

Enter your ZIP and then choose Comcast Cable from the drop down box at the top.

dishrich

join:2006-05-12
Springfield, IL
reply to bonbonbonbon
You DO realize that all CC systems have/are in the process, or in the near future, will be encrypting ALL remaining Clear QAM channels - so your Clear QAM tuner will be totally useless on Comcast. (unless you upgrade to a CableCard tuner...)

»[Content] Report notifications of Limited Basic tier encryption here


bonbonbonbon

@comcast.net
reply to SpHeRe31459
@SpHeRe31459: thanks, but that gives me the wrong kind of codes. on that list, CW is 11.1, but on my PC it was actually 111.1. until this week when it changed.

@dishrich: I know. crap. I'm super annoyed because we JUST bought our new tuner a few months ago so I'm trying to keep it chugging along. are there going to be ANY workarounds that you know of (besides buying the new tuner)? a way to get the encrypted data somehow?

I'm so annoyed with comcast. I do not want to pay for full cable or TiVo just so I can record a few shows that are free over the air. watching TV from the web is super painful. I suppose I'll look into hulu plus, but I don't like that option either... first world problems!

dishrich

join:2006-05-12
Springfield, IL
said by bonbonbonbon :

are there going to be ANY workarounds that you know of (besides buying the new tuner)? a way to get the encrypted data somehow?

Other than involving a CableCard, DTA or digital box, NO!
But you DO realize that if you are a (legit) limited basic sub, you CAN get up to 3 HD-DTA's FREE. If your current tuner works on analog signals, about the only thing you could do, would be to run the RF/coax output from the DTA, into the tuner card - but you would have to leave it tuned to ch 3/4; you would then have to do all your channel changing thru the DTA, which would make the DVR part almost useless.

Only other other suggestion would be to go with an OTA/ATSC tuner card & antenna.


bonbonbonbon

@comcast.net
it sucks that the cable networks make it so it's so difficult to DIY this. I kind of miss the good old reliable VCR. maybe I'll get that new tuner, hopefully it will not be rendered obsolete too soon. even when it is working, my PC and/or windows media center sometimes fails to work properly too. it's kind of ridiculous that I work so hard just to record some shows!

anyway, thanks for your help!


Thinkdiff
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-07
Bronx, NY
kudos:11
said by bonbonbonbon :

it sucks that the cable networks make it so it's so difficult to DIY this.

I think you've confused "DIY" with "get free cable". Yes, it sucks they're now making you pay for the service you've been using for free. But can you really be upset with them? You were exploiting a loophole (that they typically don't follow through with inserting filters). Now they're closing it.

If you enjoy the service, subscribe to "limited basic" and get your content legally.

Edit: If I've incorrectly assumed that you are not paying for a cable TV package, then I'm sorry. Your earlier statements seem to say you're not.
--
University of Southern California - Fight On!


bonbonbonbon

@comcast.net
we get limited basic bundled together with our internet service thru comcast, so we are paying for it. most of the stations are the ones that are available for free over the air - like fox and nbc.

what I meant by "free" dvr is that it's not TiVo or some other service that you have to pay a monthly service for. I really think that if we are paying for our cable, we should be able to record it for free.

dishrich

join:2006-05-12
Springfield, IL
said by bonbonbonbon :

I really think that if we are paying for our cable, we should be able to record it for free.

Well, you CAN, actually...

- Pickup one of the FREE DTA's that are entitled to as a paying customer
- Get out that "good old reliable VCR" you just mentioned above
- Connect the DTA to the VCR & put it on ch 3
- Record away for FREE


flwpwr

@comcast.net
reply to bonbonbonbon
Just use OTA if you live in Seattle area, the towers are right there except 13 which is on vashon I think? Otr maybe thats a repeater tower there.

JJV
Premium
join:2001-04-25
Seattle, WA
Im in SeaTac I have an antenna out on my deck using an old satellite cable to feed my TV. I find the locals look much better from the antenna than my Comcast box. I switch back to the box for non OTA shows.


telcodad
Premium
join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:15
reply to bonbonbonbon
said by dishrich:

You DO realize that all CC systems have/are in the process, or in the near future, will be encrypting ALL remaining Clear QAM channels - so your Clear QAM tuner will be totally useless on Comcast. (unless you upgrade to a CableCard tuner...)

»[Content] Report notifications of Limited Basic tier encryption here

said by bonbonbonbon :

@dishrich: I know. crap. I'm super annoyed because we JUST bought our new tuner a few months ago so I'm trying to keep it chugging along. are there going to be ANY workarounds that you know of (besides buying the new tuner)? a way to get the encrypted data somehow?

said by dishrich:

said by bonbonbonbon :

are there going to be ANY workarounds that you know of (besides buying the new tuner)? a way to get the encrypted data somehow?

Other than involving a CableCard, DTA or digital box, NO!
But you DO realize that if you are a (legit) limited basic sub, you CAN get up to 3 HD-DTA's FREE. If your current tuner works on analog signals, about the only thing you could do, would be to run the RF/coax output from the DTA, into the tuner card - but you would have to leave it tuned to ch 3/4; you would then have to do all your channel changing thru the DTA, which would make the DVR part almost useless.

Only other other suggestion would be to go with an OTA/ATSC tuner card & antenna.

said by bonbonbonbon :

we get limited basic bundled together with our internet service thru comcast, so we are paying for it. most of the stations are the ones that are available for free over the air - like fox and nbc.

what I meant by "free" dvr is that it's not TiVo or some other service that you have to pay a monthly service for. I really think that if we are paying for our cable, we should be able to record it for free.

Looks like some areas of Seattle have just had their Limited Basic channels encrypted: »[Content] Re: Almost here for me

radiocolin

join:2013-01-29
reply to Thinkdiff
said by Thinkdiff:

said by bonbonbonbon :

it sucks that the cable networks make it so it's so difficult to DIY this.

I think you've confused "DIY" with "get free cable". Yes, it sucks they're now making you pay for the service you've been using for free. But can you really be upset with them? You were exploiting a loophole (that they typically don't follow through with inserting filters). Now they're closing it.

If you enjoy the service, subscribe to "limited basic" and get your content legally.

Edit: If I've incorrectly assumed that you are not paying for a cable TV package, then I'm sorry. Your earlier statements seem to say you're not.

You're awful quick to jump on him.

DTAs and cable cards are kind of annoying. We came out with a technology in the 1990s that gave us cable ready TVs, so we didn't need all these adapters. Now we're right back to that world.