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HiVolt
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reply to Xstar_Lumini

Re: LOL @ Roger's & Bell's Pathetic Radio Ad

Same as the pathetic ad from the Canadian Wireless Association (or something to that effect) that says that Canadians cell prices are 60% lower than american, and that Canada is a world leader in wireless....

Made me freakin puke.
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KamWest

join:2013-03-26
Canada

The problem is that people here on the forum are enlightened about Rogers and Bell but a lot of regular people will buy that bull sob story.

The masses are mostly unaware of the games being played. So sad for us... :-(



Xstar_Lumini

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I was in Central America on vacation last month. Took my unlocked Samsung Galaxy S3. I went to a plaza and there were selling cellphone chips from 7 different cellphone carriers for $5 and they came pre-loaded already with $10 dollars of talk time in them. Wow 7 different cellphone carriers in this small 3rd-world country?

Anyways, once I bought a chip I called my wife from there (she was in Toronto), the long distance call was $.07 cents a minute. How much does Rogers/Bell charge for making a direct long distance call to Central America? Anyways, to my shock my Samsung Galaxy S3 had full-blown cellphone tower internet access, it was G3 but the speeds were as fast as Roger's. Read my lips, the speeds were as blazingly fast as Rogers and yet Rogers touts a "4G" internet speed and counts itself as in the top 10 fastest in the world.

2 MB Pics loaded into Facebook as fast as Roger's purported super-fast cellphone speeds. I saw Youtube videos uninterrupted. My $10 in talk time & internet access lasted a week. I imagine talking to other local cellphones must had been 1 penny a minute. I bought the chip from a cellphone carrier called "Tigo" which years ago changed its name from "Telemovil". They sold texting packages which were 25 cents for 300 messages or 1,500 messages for 50 cents. I bought $1 (u.s.) in text messages so they gave me 3,000 text messages, more than enough to text my wife/friends the 3 weeks I was there. Incoming text messages are FREE even if they are international.

Locals told me there was an even cheaper cellphone carrier there named "Digicel" which sold 1,000 text messages for 25 cents (u.s.) and if you bought a $5 chip from them it came with $20 dollars in talk time/3G internet access.

Can a japanese tourist come to Toronto and buy a $5 phone chip and have $20 in talk time/internet preloaded on it? Can he call Japan and be charged only 7 cents a minute? Why not? If a third-world country can offer these cheap prices why can't the canadian Big Three offer similar pre-paid plans?

(Rogers lovers, please don't come here saying that Rogers invests in infrastructure, that third-world country had lots of cellphone towers and very good celltower internet speeds, so they must be investing into their ifrastructure too)



sbrook
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I absolutely don't want Verizon in Canada. They will be absolutely no different from the big 3 here already. But Robellus argument for keeping Verizon out is pathetic.

I just got back from a month in the UK. Got a SIM card for $1.50 (handling fee = it's free direct from Lycamobile) for Lycamobile from the local Grocery Store. They piggyback on several of the carriers depending on where you are (mostly Orange) and cover parts of Europe. 7.5c per minute to a landline, free to another Lycamobile subscriber, 15c to another mobile subscriber (one of the oddities of Europe where your cost is based on a gateway charge. 10c per minute to call Canada and the US.

There are others wil similar rates such as LeBara.

That said the major carriers in England such as Orange, T-Mobile etc. have much higher rates.



Ian
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said by sbrook:

I absolutely don't want Verizon in Canada. They will be absolutely no different from the big 3 here already. But Robellus argument for keeping Verizon out is pathetic.

My take on it is that I don't think people think Verizon will be necessarily and better than Robellus. However, an additional large competitor might help keep Robellus more honest. It may be a faint hope.
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sbrook
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Given Verizon's (and other US carriers') behaviour in the US, I seriously doubt their own honesty. They would simply become another member of the club, and we'll be talking about Verobellus.



HiVolt
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But if Verizon comes here, are they gonna start in the big cities first like the existing new entrants, or are they gonna share towers with robellus?

I can't see them being relevant unless they're national, or at least cover a lot of rural areas.

Anyway, they will probably have good prices for the first couple years as to attract switchers. after that, it'll probably be the same shit like the rest of the cartel.
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mlerner
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reply to KamWest

said by KamWest:

The masses are mostly unaware of the games being played. So sad for us... :-(

Actually, this campaign is doing the opposite. I haven't seen anyone except the telco employees, lobbyists or those with ties to the carriers say anything in agreement to the campaign. This will backfire in a big way for the carriers after years of lies and price increases.


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reply to sbrook

said by sbrook:

Given Verizon's (and other US carriers') behaviour in the US, I seriously doubt their own honesty. They would simply become another member of the club, and we'll be talking about Verobellus.

Precisely. Verizon is every bit the scumbag company that Robellus is or aspires to be. Some of the folks hear need to venture over to read some of the forums our American friends post to. The horror stories are strikingly similar and equally pathetic. The current oligopoly will be diluted, and that is what they fear.

If Verizon buys Wind, I may wait a year or so though, because the honeymoon period will likely see some bonuses and such as Verizon woos Canadians.

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reply to Ian

No it won't The largest cableco in Quebec has been offering cell service for a while now, and packages are pretty much the same as robelus.


the cerberus

join:2007-10-16
Richmond Hill, ON

Seriously?

Why would Verizon want to join the club that just adamantly tried to keep it out of the country?
Robellus just payed large sums of money to keep Verizon out for what reason exactly?

They are scared they will have to really compete. A real threat, with lower costs(look it up and compare rogers/bell to verizon)

The small new entrants that came in never really could get the coverage, and Rogers, Bell and Telus would repeatedly buy the up (Moblicity, Fido, Virgin).
When Robellus learned they would actually have someone come in they could never buy they threw a big fit with these ads that not many buy into.
When a new carrier enters, in order to compete in the market, they will have to offer lower costs, and really ONLY big companies like Verizon can afford to do this while setting up, upgrading and expanding a new network.



Ramin
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reply to sbrook

It's been so many years that these 3 big idiots have been enjoying Canada divided by 3 and peacefully. That is, at some point, they figured they should accept the other 2 sharing our $$.

What is going to happen is that there will be another big idiot from US joining the party and certainly the first 3 hate that. None of them likes to be forced to make less than what they've been making.

So, at some point in future, one of the 1st big 3 morons will want to make more $$ to keep their fat shareholders happy. So, they will have to begin stealing others' subscribers. The only solution to that is to lower their rates.

And the rest is obvious.

Then again, I hope this is not my wishful thinking!

Either way, as soon as Verizon shows up, it is my duty to switch even if they charge me more than what I'm paying!

I just want to teach the big 3 idiots a lesson they never forget!

LOL



sbrook
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What will is likely to happen is Robellus will INCREASE their rates until someone new appears, and then will "compete" by lowering them. Much the way grocery stores do a price rise ... they'll call their normal price a "sale price" and after the sale, push it up.

The current idea of competition is not to outdo your competitors.


the cerberus

join:2007-10-16
Richmond Hill, ON

said by sbrook:

What will is likely to happen is Robellus will INCREASE their rates until someone new appears, and then will "compete" by lowering them. Much the way grocery stores do a price rise ... they'll call their normal price a "sale price" and after the sale, push it up.

The current idea of competition is not to outdo your competitors.

That is exactly the same as the Best Buy/Futureshop tactic.
Everything is inflated in price right before every sale.
Every sale is really just regular price at Canadacomputers/NCIX/Any reasonable electronics store.

I just enjoy how scared Robellus is about Verizon entering the market, spending large sums of money trying to trick us into not letting them in.
They know they are going to have to lower prices to compete, and they are not happy.