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KamWest

join:2013-03-26
Canada

Sign if you are commited to dumping Rogers!

Who dumped Rogers for over the air?

So I am officially 3 months with over the air TV and I get 4 nice channels in Waterloo Region. I get Global, CTV, City TV, and TVO. All are crystal clear with only a terk indoor antenna. I dropped Rogers because they forced me to subscribe to packages instead of the channels I wanted.

I would like to see if we can get up to 1000 member names that have dumped rogers cable TV.

Lets make rogers notice...

Sign in, let them know they lost you as a client
1. KamWest
2. Quote and add your name

toro

join:2006-01-27
Scarborough, ON
kudos:8
Does it count that I dumped Rogers cable about 10 years ago ?

Epichappy

join:2012-05-14
Kitchener, ON
reply to KamWest
Seriously, how much do you pirate? I don't think it should count if you torrent... and I would include US hulu in that bucket.


RLBL

join:2012-11-26
Gloucester, ON
kudos:1
reply to KamWest
I no longer have cable
I no longer have a home phone
My Internet will be switch to Start on the 5th of August

I am on Rogers Wireless ... no plans on moving at this point.


TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Calgary, AB
kudos:3
reply to KamWest
I dumped cable a while ago like over a year mind you I still get the non digital stuff they never cut it off. I'll be killing internet with them today and giving my 30 days.

vincom

join:2009-03-06
Bolton, ON
kudos:1
reply to KamWest
ditched tv and internet awhile back, I put the savings toward my debts


MJB

join:2012-01-29
Reviews:
·VMedia
reply to KamWest
i'll like my grandparents and mom/stepdad to dump robbers... but they are impossible to convince and won't switch to tpia.... damn it is the same internet... i'll guess they will be last two customers on robbers... i'm on ciktel/vmedia (vmedia 45/4) still have rogers tv at my dad's but edited the line in the house.. split(two way and three new coax cables RG6, 25 Feet and Two 6 Feet Cables) to add ability for cable internet.


TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Calgary, AB
kudos:3
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
reply to KamWest
thats it rogers is canceled. now to go buy a modem tomorrow and sign up for strat. I need that 10 upload and rogers can't come close to it damn if I will pay over 120 for internet just to get that upload. 120 was with best discounts they could give too.


Xstar_Lumini

join:2008-12-14
Canada
kudos:2
reply to KamWest
I have Dish satellite TV since 2001 and have never looked back at Rogers cable.. I get 320 channels for $33 u.s. dollars.


TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Calgary, AB
kudos:3
Is that the cdn signals you're getting or the us ones. Give me some details man.

vincom

join:2009-03-06
Bolton, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Anveo
·TekSavvy Cable
said by TOPDAWG:

Is that the cdn signals you're getting or the us ones. Give me some details man.

dish is American so no Canadian signals but who cares, I agree details please


RLBL

join:2012-11-26
Gloucester, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Start Communicat..
reply to Xstar_Lumini
said by Xstar_Lumini:

I have Dish satellite TV since 2001 and have never looked back at Rogers cable.. I get 320 channels for $33 u.s. dollars.

How are you doing so with a Canadian address (or do they care what you address is?)


eweazel

join:2008-12-09
Etobicoke, ON
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
reply to Epichappy
said by Epichappy:

Seriously, how much do you pirate? I don't think it should count if you torrent... and I would include US hulu in that bucket.

How is Hulu considered Pirating. I pay them a monthly fee, its just not allowed in Canada.
I dumped Rogers two years ago and haven't missed them in the least. Netflix and Huluplus, plus a lot of shows are streamed from the network sites anyway.


KamWest

join:2013-03-26
Canada
reply to Epichappy
I use an occasional torrent but mostly watch over the air or LEGAL youtube documentaries.

Really I don't much care who does what because when a monopoly charges insane prices we have no other choice but take advantage of what is available. If I had a carrier that said I could add CNN, A&E and a few others to my over the air signals then I would gladly pay for what I use. However forcing a $100 package on me to get CNN just sucks.

bparanoid5

join:2009-07-17
reply to KamWest
Two years and counting for me. Netflix + OTA + Youtube is more than enough content to fulfill my families TV needs.

Not having to open another Rogers bill and seeing a price increase notice = Priceless


chip89
Premium
join:2012-07-05
Independence, OH
reply to vincom
They had a Canada division a while back they sold it two bell and it is now know as Bell TV.


KamWest

join:2013-03-26
Canada
reply to bparanoid5
HeHeHe.... best quote yet

Epichappy

join:2012-05-14
Kitchener, ON
reply to eweazel
said by eweazel:

said by Epichappy:

Seriously, how much do you pirate? I don't think it should count if you torrent... and I would include US hulu in that bucket.

How is Hulu considered Pirating. I pay them a monthly fee, its just not allowed in Canada.
I dumped Rogers two years ago and haven't missed them in the least. Netflix and Huluplus, plus a lot of shows are streamed from the network sites anyway.

The same way using Direct TV in Canada is piracy, even though you are paying for it.

Read this page, which explains why you can't do it legally.

»www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.ns ··· 562.html


RLBL

join:2012-11-26
Gloucester, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Start Communicat..
Thanks for the link, but it does not directly cover website streaming to the home (one can insinuate the principal is the same as decrypting US satellite signals - which is illigal)

However if one were to purchase a VPN service and watch Fox, Hulu, US version of Netflix etc... from what I read this is not illegal (or better stated, explicitly covered, unless I glazed over something... if so please point it out as I am genuinely interested in knowing...)

Although it could follow that the spirit of why pirating is illegal could be extended to streaming from US providers, there is no:

- Illegal equipment purchased
- Decoding of encrypted signals

From the act (specific to grey market):

The Radiocommunication Act Section 9(1)(c) states: "No person shall…decode an encrypted subscription programming signal or encrypted network feed otherwise than under and in accordance with an authorization from the lawful distributor of the signal or feed". This section of the Radiocommunication Act has been the subject of recent court challenges involving retailers who sell American DTH satellite receivers and services in Canada. This resulted in confusion due to differing judgements rendered regarding the interpretation of section 9(1)(c). A Supreme Court of Canada decision in the case of Bell ExpressVu v. Richard Rex, made on April 26, 2002, confirms that provisions in the Radiocommunication Act forbid the illegal decoding of satellite television programming.


Xstar_Lumini

join:2008-12-14
Canada
kudos:2
reply to RLBL
said by RLBL:

said by Xstar_Lumini:

I have Dish satellite TV since 2001 and have never looked back at Rogers cable.. I get 320 channels for $33 u.s. dollars.

How are you doing so with a Canadian address (or do they care what you address is?)

There are dozens of intermidiary providers in the GTA that take care of that, they charge $75 a year to provide you with a u.s. address and process your payments.. but you must have a CC card so they can take away $33 u.s. a month.


RLBL

join:2012-11-26
Gloucester, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Start Communicat..
said by Xstar_Lumini:

said by RLBL:

said by Xstar_Lumini:

I have Dish satellite TV since 2001 and have never looked back at Rogers cable.. I get 320 channels for $33 u.s. dollars.

How are you doing so with a Canadian address (or do they care what you address is?)

There are dozens of intermidiary providers in the GTA that take care of that, they charge $75 a year to provide you with a u.s. address and process your payments.. but you must have a CC card so they can take away $33 u.s. a month.

Sounds sketchy (ignoring the legalities). If it is working for you, fine... Thanks for replying.


TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Calgary, AB
kudos:3
thank god I got parents in the US I use their address for all type of stuff netflix and other US states they won't let you use cdn info.

Not sure I'd do the cable thing as I just download and don't have cable right now anyway.


dabonz

join:2012-05-17
Ottawa, ON
reply to KamWest
I'm thinking of Dumping my movie network and also super channels its all crap I use NETFLIX i pay like $103 for Rogers cable TV its all shit movies I would like to keep my HD package tho


KamWest

join:2013-03-26
Canada
I had the movie network only to watch king of thrones but you can watch that online at project free tv. I hooked it up to my tv with an hdmi cable and was good to go.

vincom

join:2009-03-06
Bolton, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Anveo
·TekSavvy Cable
reply to RLBL
said by RLBL:

Sounds sketchy (ignoring the legalities). If it is working for you, fine... Thanks for replying.

sketchy?, there are lots of canadians doing this, it doesnt infract crtc rules as it has nothing todo about stealing canadian signals, the price to get setup is alot cheaper than paying robbers or bhell's 1 month bill, seems no risk at all even if you have to setup/buy the equipment which u can buy second hand, in the long run, say 6 months lol, youd be in the black and not paying outrageous cable tv prices which go up constantly for crap programming
but keeping paying robbers monthly bill if you like but that to me is more sketchy as to why if theres alternatives

HeadSpinning
MNSi Internet

join:2005-05-29
Windsor, ON
kudos:6
Dish is in violation of their programming agreements with their suppliers if they knowingly do this. They may simply turn a blind eye, but if their suppliers make a stink about it, they'll have to do something. Their suppliers could get pressure put on them by their Canadian customers (Rogers, Cogeco, Bell, Shaw, etc.) if this practice becomes more widespread.
--
MNSi Internet - »www.mnsi.net

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to vincom
said by vincom:

sketchy?, there are lots of canadians doing this, it doesnt infract crtc rules as it has nothing todo about stealing canadian signals, the price to get setup is alot cheaper than paying robbers or bhell's 1 month bill, seems no risk at all even if you have to setup/buy the equipment which u can buy second hand, in the long run, say 6 months lol, youd be in the black and not paying outrageous cable tv prices which go up constantly for crap programming
but keeping paying robbers monthly bill if you like but that to me is more sketchy as to why if theres alternatives

Except it is illegal in Canada to receive services the way these users are. Just because lots of people are doing something doesn't mean it is legal.

vincom

join:2009-03-06
Bolton, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Anveo
·TekSavvy Cable
said by 34764170:

said by vincom:

sketchy?, there are lots of canadians doing this, it doesnt infract crtc rules as it has nothing todo about stealing canadian signals, the price to get setup is alot cheaper than paying robbers or bhell's 1 month bill, seems no risk at all even if you have to setup/buy the equipment which u can buy second hand, in the long run, say 6 months lol, youd be in the black and not paying outrageous cable tv prices which go up constantly for crap programming
but keeping paying robbers monthly bill if you like but that to me is more sketchy as to why if theres alternatives

Except it is illegal in Canada to receive services the way these users are. Just because lots of people are doing something doesn't mean it is legal.

what law are they breaking in Canada, I really don't know.
the old days I know people where stealing Canadian satellite signals and the cops were cracking down on the resellers and maybe some users.
how about overseas signals would they also be considered illegal.


TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Calgary, AB
kudos:3
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
well being none of us are lawyers and I'm sure none are going to read the whole signals code lets say this some of us don't give a fork and will do it if we can.

I got a VPN and get US netflix is that breaking some type of BS code no idea and I don't care if I wanted to get cheaper TV I'm more than happy to get something that lets me get the US signals.


sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
Ottawa
kudos:13
reply to vincom