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JLR

join:2001-01-28
Auburndale, FL
reply to ispalten

Re: [TV] SHOWTIME going or GONE from BH????

Why was my post unrelated to this thread and not horrible internet service and other complaints?....just sayin


BHNtechXpert
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said by JLR:

Why was my post unrelated to this thread and not horrible internet service and other complaints?....just sayin

It was unrelated because it had nothing to do with the CBS Corp issue. Completely unrelated and we were already aware of it and it as you know has been fixed. While your effort was not to hijack the thread it was important to keep them apart because they truly were unrelated.

The other folks have been addressed as well...you were not being singled out.
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JLR

join:2001-01-28
Auburndale, FL
then how was the post about horrible internet service
related to this thread?


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said by JLR:

then how was the post about horrible internet service
related to this thread?

It wasn't and it was addressed....relax there JLR.


JLR

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Auburndale, FL
you're the boss


BHNtechXpert
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reply to ispalten
Most of you know not to hijack threads....we have several newbies and anons who were not aware of forums etiquette or just didn't care...trust me I addressed each where possible. The anons its difficult because they won't get the reply anyway unless they come back...you get the idea.


Guide_Tim

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Gary smacked me a few times for hijacking a thread , but its ok I know better now
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tim tim tim

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If you smack him back ill give you a dollar.


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said by tim tim tim:

If you smack him back ill give you a dollar.

LOL

ispalten

join:2005-04-16
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reply to ispalten
I'm NOT hijacking this thread, just adding some recent news....

»www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2013···2619467/
»www.usatoday.com/story/money/bus···2619887/

I guess this isn't going to be resolved so soon?

I supposed BOTH CBS and TWC/BH are losing money over this? From what I deduce out of this, it wasn't necessary for either TWC or BH to drop CBS but I suspect they did it to make a point? Since both are losing 'income', CBS from transmission fees, and BH from 'profit' over the cost of the fees, someone it seems must 'blink' before we get these back. I'd suspect the BH 'profit' is probably less than CBS's fee, but I guess I might be hoping that is the case.

Too bad, everyone loses.

Sometimes I wish I really understood how fees and even modem rental fees are determined? I have TWC stock and can't even figure it out from their filings, much else BH which is not a public company?
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ispalten

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From the last link above, I see this:

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In a letter Monday from TWC CEO Glenn Britt to CBS CEO Leslie Moonves, Britt proposed to restore the stations if CBS agrees to "the new economics TWC reluctantly agreed to" during talks and keeps other terms from their expired deal for rights to carry CBS station signals.

Britt also implied that TWC was willing to forgo its insistence on digital rights that would allow the cable company to distribute CBS shows via streaming to subscribers.

"Although those terms are not ideal to CBS or TWC, and would leave TWC and our customers without the digital rights that CBS has provided to others, since both parties have lived under those terms productively for many years, we believe we should continue to live with them in the interest of restoring CBS," Britt wrote.
----------------

I don't understand? It sort of says that TWC wanted Digital Rights to stream the signal that others have and CBS was reluctant to grant those rights?

If so, how did those channels go out on BHTV as it implied TWC (and therefore BH) did NOT have those rights?

Did I not understand the paragraphs?

Also not clear was this:

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In a retaliatory move, CBS cut off access for TWC customers %u2014 including those who only subscribe to broadband Internet %u2014 to recently aired episodes available on CBS.com.

In the Monday letter, Britt called the move "abhorrent" and called for CBS to reopen the online access. "Regardless of the issues between us, it is surely beyond the pale for you to subject these Internet customers to blocking of content that is made available for free to all others," he wrote.
---------------

I assume this is because CBS.COM needs the MYSERVICES ID and PW, and CBS removed TWC and BH (no I have NOT looked)? This is different from the above?
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geo44

join:2013-03-20
Saint Petersburg, FL

2 edits
I dont think so , it blocks before you even get a login. Looks like
they are deliberately blocking IP addresses in the BH TWC range
I wonder if one used a proxy if they will get through.

EDIT: used my wife's phone on the sprint network and was able to view no problem without having to login. Thats really despicable of CBS


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said by geo44:

I dont think so , it blocks before you even get a login. Looks like
they are deliberately blocking IP addresses in the BH TWC range
I wonder if one used a proxy if they will get through.

They are...plain and simple.
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Swindle
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join:2006-07-24
Tampa, FL
reply to ispalten
It's unfortunate CBS is taking this route. I'm all for the black out ... Don't want my bill going up next month because TWC or BHN cave in to CBS demands.
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said by Swindle:

It's unfortunate CBS is taking this route. I'm all for the black out ... Don't want my bill going up next month because TWC or BHN cave in to CBS demands.

Thank you for your support!
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Chris54321

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I cancelled Brighthouse because reception is horrible, contractors lazy, hold times are always 15+ minutes when I call...weather TW or tv networks are being greedy-neither are getting my business. I really miss Directv-much better service and quality picture and equiptment! Nog to mention cheaper. I now live in a "Brighthouse only" sub and I choose to go without. Hello internet tv!


Rick34758

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said by BHNtechXpert:

said by GeNomer:

said by nyrfan9:

My internet service is just horrible and I live with it because I cannot stand talking on the phone with the people at BH tech support.

Can't just expect it to fix itself...

No and folks have a great resource in me to get things fixed as quickly as humanly possible if they hate calling in but rather than use it choose to pick these moments to hit n run complain as though nobody will help them when it is they who made the decision not to to use the resources available to them. It is not that we failed or refused to help. I've always been baffled by that mindset especially knowing how much time I invest in each and every one of you who reaches out to me.

Case in point
»lightning causing corrupt downloads this customer posted and notice his frustration in getting it resolved. This is literally a one in a million issue where the right conditions have to exist all in perfect alignment. Folks on the phone will go a lifetime and never see it and before you troubleshoot it several things have to be checked before you apply the fix...this is not easily trained on but once identified is fixed in less than 3 minutes. His issue is fixed because he reached out to me in less than 15 minutes start to finish.

Absolutely spot on. A couple of years ago I was also frustrated and ready to bail - multiple service calls with no resolution - poor internet connectivity, etc. Finally, I came here and Gary jumped on the case. Long story short, he did some kind of magic, BHN replaced a series of components in my loop and my service has been flawless ever since. Heck, the experience even made me drop the dish and bring my TV services back to BHN.

Gary - you rock!

allowiches

join:2012-04-01
Palm Coast, FL
reply to ispalten

Comment on CBS thing

I have never understood the concept of carriage fees for OTA channels. The cable / satellite companies are doing these stations a favor by putting eyeballs in front of their advertisers. Isn't that the point of owning a station, to sell advertisers eyeballs? I don't know who was the first cable company to pay a carraige fee, but they sure screwed it up forever. I know I'm over-simplifying it since there are now so many non-OTA non-premium channels, but still, it comes down to advertising.

I think the cable satellite companies need to tell all broadcasters that they are not going to pay for any non-premium channels anymore and they can take a hike.

Art Deco

join:2011-04-27
said by allowiches:

I think the cable satellite companies need to tell all broadcasters that they are not going to pay for any non-premium channels anymore and they can take a hike.

That was well and good when cable companies had close to a true monopoly. Now with the advent of DirecTV/Dish and telcos like AT&T and Verizon jumping in, many if not most areas have alternatives, so therefore the networks have some leverage in carriage disputes.

I never get too riled up over these disputes, because they almost always sort themselves out within weeks if not days. Each side needs the other, it's a just of question of how much pain one side or the other (declining viewership vs. declining subs) can take before one of them gets reasonable.

The one thing that actually does gall me about these disputes is how each side tries to enlist the consumer on their behalf to pressure the other in what is essentially the corporate equivalent of the Iran-Iraq War.


Morfein
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reply to BHNtechXpert

Re: [TV] SHOWTIME going or GONE from BH????

You know none of this matters....

Till they start blocking my porn. You don't mess with that. I bet even Congress would have an emergency session for viewing rights. Think of the kittens!!! Oh crap... I'm not hijacking this thread.


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said by Morfein:

You know none of this matters....

Till they start blocking my porn. You don't mess with that. I bet even Congress would have an emergency session for viewing rights. Think of the kittens!!! Oh crap... I'm not hijacking this thread.

LOL
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Milkman

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reply to ispalten
I have never seen something like this last very long... I am sure it will be back...

ALSO - I cannot believe that CBS has blocked BHN from viewing their website. I happen to have DirecTV for my cable provider, and I think that it is absolute GARBAGE that they are blocking me because of my high speed provider. THAT is crap.


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I sent them a scathing email (not typically my style) telling them that since I am a DirecTV customer, and they appear to suddenly attach the ability to view their online videos with being a paid CBS customer (which I am through DirecTV) I demand an IMMEDIATE workaround to this issue.


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said by Milkman:

I sent them a scathing email (not typically my style) telling them that since I am a DirecTV customer, and they appear to suddenly attach the ability to view their online videos with being a paid CBS customer (which I am through DirecTV) I demand an IMMEDIATE workaround to this issue.

LOL
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Milkman

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I doubt it will do anything, but I am pissed that they would do some sort of half assed stunt like that without thinking about it. This effects all DirecTV and Dish customers that use BHN/TW for internet.

Looks like the FCC has been asked to get involved too:

»investing.businessweek.com/resea···cker=TWX


BHNtechXpert
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said by Milkman:

I doubt it will do anything, but I am pissed that they would do some sort of half assed stunt like that without thinking about it. This effects all DirecTV and Dish customers that use BHN/TW for internet.

Looks like the FCC has been asked to get involved too:

»investing.businessweek.com/resea···cker=TWX

Yep but they tend to move real slow and by the time they notice this may all be a bad memory. Hard to say. One thing is for sure I feel everyones pain and we'll get through it.
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geo44

join:2013-03-20
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I wish the media could get it right, they are saying its TWC's fault.
CBS is the one doing the blocking .....


Milkman

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As far as CBS.com yes you are absolutely right.

As far as CBS and TW discussions I fear that is normal negotiation these days. In the end both parties will cave a bit and in the end fees will go up.

xlokix

join:2013-07-20
Tampa, FL
reply to ispalten
Brighthouse better not cave in to cBS's demands. The only show on any of their channels that gets watched in this house is Dexter, and thats gonna be over soon. I just can't see myself paying more for a part of the service that we aren't even using. How about an option for a la carte channel packages?


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said by xlokix:

Brighthouse better not cave in to cBS's demands. The only show on any of their channels that gets watched in this house is Dexter, and thats gonna be over soon. I just can't see myself paying more for a part of the service that we aren't even using. How about an option for a la carte channel packages?

People ask for that across all different providers (cable and the satellite), and the answer that is always given is that if they go a la carte on certain channels, EVERYONES cost will go up because instead of a LOT of people for paying a LITTLE bit for all of the channels, the LITTLE bit of people that want those channels will have to pay a LOT.

I have never seen numbers to justify that, but the logic makes sense.