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sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
Ottawa
kudos:13
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
·WIND Mobile
reply to Neo

Re: Goodbye and thanks for all the bits

No Third party provider can afford to build sufficient last mile infrastructure to provide affordable internet. Remember the phone service infrastructure was built over many years (some phone lines into homes are well over 50 years old), and the cable service leverages plant upgrade costs against internet, cable and home phone service.

Companies like TekSavvy simply don't have the cash or leveraging power to afford the billions it would cost to lay a 3rd cable (copper or fibre) to a wide spread network.


MJB

join:2012-01-29
it's the crtc the telecoms the lobbyists plus the stupid sheeple public who supports them... that's the problem.... consumer -> rogers - > lobbyists -> crtc -> repeat

it's a loophole created by the businesses...

TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH
reply to sbrook
Except that TK has built a last mile network; full FTTH, only later to sell it. Marc was even posting that it was sold due to it was too far away from them.


sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
Ottawa
kudos:13
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
·WIND Mobile
But that's the point it's too difficult and expensive to build a last mile network to cover all the area that TekSavvy would like to cover. They need people on the ground all over the coverage area at which point you've built another Rogers or Bell.


MJB

join:2012-01-29
Reviews:
·VMedia
·ACN DSL
reply to TBBroadband
nice to live on 100 dollars a month and the cost of living is more than 100 dollars.. youtube/twitch/livestreaming is my only option. i lose jobs faster than i get them... i expect that from employers who don't care about actual workers... just people who socialize all day and no work.... example staples... sell 30000 dollars of chinese garbage to people...

anyway internet is important option with issue of censorship, data caps, and speed....

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to TBBroadband
Buying a company is not building out a network. Plus it was in the middle of nowhere.

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to sbrook
Plus they would need billions to get there. TSI does not have that kind of capital or access to it at all.


MJB

join:2012-01-29
what is stupid is not even making an effort to lay a fiber network... not even starting... you don't need 100000000 dollars to start and you couldn't lay all that fiber in a day... ****!!!

TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH
reply to 34764170
TK claimed they built that network, which is not the customers' fault that it was out in the middle of nowhere.
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TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH
reply to 34764170

Re: Goodbye and thanks for all the bits

Loans and loans. It's possible.


sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
Ottawa
kudos:13
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
·WIND Mobile
reply to MJB
They laid fibre into Perth. It is a comparatively easy town to do so . Laying fibre into Toronto on the other hand would be ridiculously expensive. The cost to dig up a street is just phenomenal ... there aren't tunnels everywhere. The trouble is that Toronto is the place you'd really want to lay in fibre to the home to make money because of the population density to make the money. Towns like Perth are great for a trial, but not for making money!

TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH
reply to MJB
they tired, and sold it. they built it out in the middle of nowhere.
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34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to TBBroadband

Re: Goodbye and thanks for all the bits

They (TSI) didn't build anything.

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to TBBroadband
Easier said than done.

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to TBBroadband
Having a FTTH network in the middle of nowhere means nothing when 99.999999% of their customer base is still on the incumbent carriers.


fourboxers
Co-Lead Mod
join:2003-05-04
Toronto, ON

(topic move) Goodbye and thanks for all the bits

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ommand

join:2013-07-19
canada
reply to MJB

Re: Goodbye and thanks for all the bits

said by MJB:

what is stupid is not even making an effort to lay a fiber network... not even starting... you don't need 100000000 dollars to start and you couldn't lay all that fiber in a day... ****!!!

Except that any city worth laying fiber in has exclusive long term contracts with the likes of Bell and Rogers. They have legal monopolies and the only way around it is line sharing.
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