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clone

join:2000-12-11
Portage, IN
reply to FFH

Re: He can, and must speak.

I'll post it again, since you obviously can't read:

"Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech..."

Does it get any simpler than that?

Yet, Congress passed a law abridging the freedom of speech. Just because our Supreme Court might as well be some third-world kangaroo court nowadays doesn't mean the law isn't unconstitutional, it means some bought-and-paid-for judges can't fucking read.

(Edit: If you didn't know, the appeal to authority is a logical fallacy.)



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said by clone:

I'll post it again, since you obviously can't read:

"Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech..."

And one of the exemptions of that passage, that the supreme court s ruled on and affirmed repeal is the public safety and security overrides that right.
you cannot yell "fire!" in a theater, and certain gov't actions to protect the public may prevent your free speech on the specific items requested in a NSL (ie a gag order)
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biochemistry

join:2003-05-09
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reply to tshirt

Re: He can, and must speak.

And who should have the authority to decide whether something protects the public?


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said by tshirt:

And one of the exemptions of that passage, that the supreme court s ruled on and affirmed repeal is the public safety and security overrides that right.
you cannot yell "fire!" in a theater, and certain gov't actions to protect the public may prevent your free speech on the specific items requested in a NSL (ie a gag order)

Yelling "fire!" in a theater would be a lie, unless there really is a fire, in which case you are allowed to yell "fire!" in a theater. I don't think the first amendment was meant to protect lies.

However, lying aside, the first amendment is pretty clearly written and SCOTUS ruling otherwise is a blatant violation of the Constitution of the United States.

In fact, the Bill of Rights was written in an attempt to prevent the government from doing the very things it is now doing today. It was supposed to provide protection from government overreach. Unfortunately the founding fathers never counted on the entire government becoming corrupt and the American police/military complex becoming so large that it could be used to suppress any dissent from the American people. Not to mention a population who are too apathetic to care that their rights are being taken away from them one by one.


chip89

join:2012-07-05
Independence, OH
reply to tshirt

You could yell fire in a theater if their was a real fire though!



FreePreach

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reply to tshirt

said by tshirt:

said by clone:

I'll post it again, since you obviously can't read:

"Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech..."

you cannot yell "fire!" in a theater

Actually I can, the constitution does not prevent me from saying certain words in certain places. Just like I can burn an flag and even get strip down naked in front of everyone at a TSA checkpoint like John Brennan did.

Furthermore the 2nd amendment doesn't exempt felons from owning guns either (not like current law prevented them from obtaining one in the first place) and the 4th amendment to applies to people on parole and probation so "probation searches" are also unconstitutional.

And it doesnt matter what the supreme court says, they cannot override the Constitution.