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BF69
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join:2004-07-28
West Tenness

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reply to skeechan

Re: Obey the law or go out of business

said by skeechan:

Stop the endless march of totalitarianism, or become serfs of regime.

It is amazing how people love oppressive regimes.

It's amazing people actually believe like you. Seriously do you actually spend every waking day thinking that some evil totalitarian government is just right around the corner? Honestly if I actually believed that I would just go ahead and kill myself. People that actually believe in these conspiracy theories and chicken little scenarios must be very unhappy people always thinking the end of freedom is near. And I actually kind of pity them.

jp10558
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join:2005-06-24
Willseyville, NY

Except every month it seems another "conspiracy theory" is proven correct. Till Snowden, I thought it was a conspiracy theory that the US govt was watching everything done online, now we know it is true.

I can't see how the US govt isn't totalitarian at this point - it just "allows" you more actions that you personally expect a totalitarian goverment to allow. That doesn't mean it allows the same actions to everyone (see all the well documented "selective" enforcement of laws), nor that it won't choose to deny you some action at any time in secret without appeal to courts or the public.
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dean corso

join:2007-09-07
reply to BF69

It's not around the corner. It's here. Wake up.



NormanS
I gave her time to steal my mind away
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:9

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reply to BF69

said by BF69:

People that actually believe in these conspiracy theories and chicken little scenarios must be very unhappy people always thinking the end of freedom is near.

In 1972 I was paid off by the U.S. Army in Ft. Myer, Virginia. I drove cross country to Naval Base San Diego to visit my brother, who was still in the U.S. Navy. I encountered one police officer in rural Missouri, who was concerned that I might be a deserter. I showed him my DD-214, which settled that matter. He then suggested a better place to crash for the night; where I wouldn't be disturbed, or a disturbance. And then there was the California ag inspection station, where they were just concerned with pests hitch hiking on produce. LEOs were actually polite, pleasant, and helpful back then.

I used to prowl the Marin headlands shortly after my return. I'd drive right up to the chain link fence around one of the Nike-Hercules launch sites of SF-88, and not be hassled by any M16 armed guards. Traveled to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, and Denver, Colorado by air, and only had to present a boarding pass at the gate.

Now our LEAs are militarized, and view non-locals with great distrust. Police perform body cavity searches on routine traffic stops. We have warrantless wiretaps, and get stopped for no reason at all (reported by one of my sisters on a recent cross country drive). We submit to warrantless searches at airports; and soon the TSA will bring them to your local bus and train stations. The U.S. Congress periodically considers a national ID card.

The reality of travel is so different today from just forty-one years ago. We actually have slipped into a surveillance/security state mentality. It isn't my imagination; it is today's reality. If you are under thirty years old, you probably can't remember the way it was back then (well, except for minorities; they were always treated like dirt).

Today, unless you are a part of the Government Elite, you are viewed by them as a, "Threat". It isn't a "conspiracy" theory when you are seeing it as it happens.
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum


nonamesleft

join:2011-11-07
Manitowoc, WI
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reply to BF69

said by BF69:

said by skeechan:

Stop the endless march of totalitarianism, or become serfs of regime.

It is amazing how people love oppressive regimes.

It's amazing people actually believe like you. Seriously do you actually spend every waking day thinking that some evil totalitarian government is just right around the corner? Honestly if I actually believed that I would just go ahead and kill myself. People that actually believe in these conspiracy theories and chicken little scenarios must be very unhappy people always thinking the end of freedom is near. And I actually kind of pity them.

After all the government scandals that has come out, You still claim everything is a conspiracy theory. Turn off the mainstream media, dude!


tshirt
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
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reply to NormanS

said by NormanS:

...Police perform body cavity searches on routine traffic stops.....

Norman, I understand what you are generally saying, but that one frequently repeated line implies this is a common and legal practice.
In the few verified instances it has happened the LEO's have lost their jobs, and the dept's in question have been sued or made generous settlements.
Roadside body cavity searches are uncommon and illegal acts by individual officers, and are in no way endorsed by any law enforcement agency.


skeechan
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join:2012-01-26
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reply to nonamesleft

No kidding...the "black helicopter" lands in the front yard and people are still in denial.
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Nocchi rules.


cornelius785

join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA
reply to jp10558

"you're not paranoid if they really are out to get you"
"see, i was just a trendsetter, ahead of the curve"
"atleast i now know i am not paranoid/crazy"