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Dodge
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join:2002-11-27

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Some translation

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• Obama claimed he'll work with Congress to reform Section 215 of the Patriot Act. That's the portion of the Act that's supposed to restrict wholesale data collection to just those involved in serious terrorism activities, but has been interpreted by the Bush and Obama administrations to mean they can collect and store data on, well, everyone.

We will work diligently to rename it section 215 F.U. and it will clearly outline that we can do whatever we want to whomever we want so F.U. (see how it all makes sense now)

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• Obama claimed he'll work with Congress to improve the oversight within the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. Last week, the administration had already stated that they would be open to adding an attorney to advocate on behalf of privacy rights.

We'll create so much red tape that by the time anyone wades through it, they'll forget what they were looking for. And even if they don't, please refer to section 215FU outlined above.

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• Wants to improve the transparency of government programs, including the creation of a website "hub for information on intelligence activities." So far, that website has been called The Guardian, and the government's interest in genuine transparency has been nonexistent.

We'll continue doing what we were doing, except now you know that we are doing it.

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•Wants to appoint a high-level task force of outside intelligence and civil liberties specialists with the aim of advising the government on how to balance security and privacy.

I wanted to appoint a security and privacy "czar", but my advisers told me that we have 1 too many of those and the public is not responding to well to the term, so what we are going to do is create a "task force", and not just any task force a high-level task force, that is going to make government approved noise so people think something good is happening. If you are not buying into this, see section 215FU above.


XANAVirus
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join:2012-03-03
Lavalette, WV
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Nothing will change. Obama's 'promises' don't hold any water - he can't actually make the changes he says he will make (or in the off-chance he could, he won't, it would not benefit him).

Neither he nor any president can actually call this off or enforce any sort of meaningful change now, knowing the NSA is nothing new and that (all?) countries have similar agencies and tactics.

This is purely a smokescreen designed to assuage the public's fears of spying on themselves, whereas however the public is totally willing to accept the spying on foreign nations and 'terrorist regimes'.

Unfortunately, there is no way out, not now, and there probably never was and most likely never will be.

As long as there is 'evil' and differing human natures in this world, as long as there are others willing to take their cause to the extreme and commit crimes under its banner, there will be spying and there will be secrecy.


firephoto
We the people
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join:2003-03-18
Brewster, WA
reply to Dodge
And that's the biggest issue, the things they find wrong with programs are lack of legalities, not what any of the programs do.

We have laws that apply to everyone but then select, elite, special, and privileged individuals and businesses get specail laws crafted that make them exempt or immune or just not liable if they break said orginal laws. The reason? Most politicians are lawyers and they have friends and family members that are lawyers and it all makes money when you have to spend time crafting and defending legal things. It's a big scam that is propped up by the government from both sides. Even this spying or the threat of it on business is making lawyers money. If you're not just an everyday average generic citizens then most laws of this country that say you can't do specific things don't actually apply.
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firephoto
We the people
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join:2003-03-18
Brewster, WA
reply to XANAVirus
Because most people are weak when it comes to reality. It doesn't even take a credible threat, just the chance that something you don't want others to know might already be known.

Perfect example. During the campaign of Obama's they had to go to extra effort to get him to give up his everyday phone that was like everyone else has. Unsecure, open to anyone spying, every bit, every letter, ever image, every piece of media was likely collected and stored somewhere. Or maybe it wasn't but when you get to know exactly what is possible it will make you live in just a little bit of fear of being exposed for something.

The general rule of the land is that if something is possible then that something happens whether you know it or not.
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Kearnstd
Space Elf
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
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reply to Dodge
I personally find it funny how the US government has made negative comments about how countries like Iran monitor everything and that America is the land of the constitution and is not a surveillance state.

Why was I not shocked when it ended up confirmed they were shoveling bullshit. Okay I admit the US does not have secret police that make people disappear, And we never ever will have that.... Because Drones.(Neighbors are just collateral damage)
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