 IanPremium
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Re: Westlinkcable.net and Westlink Cable is a scam Still listed as "no-cap" at Canadian ISP. Number 2 at google for westlink cable. All for not a single shred of evidence that they are an ISP. |
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donkey
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I'm going to start my own "isp" and use CCTS and CanadianISP!
I shall call it, "CompuGlobalHyperMegaNet"
o wait, that company already exists  perhaps next time.
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They should have a GST/HST/PST number depending where they operate from, but they must have a business license to operate anywhere in Canada.
Screw speedtests, ask for the company paperwork.
No paperwork, no company and is fraud. |
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said by trog:I am fully aware of that; I have been reading all the postings on this. All I am saying is we do need to be somewhat careful. For instance, has any member actually signed up for service and seen what happens?
Reasonable doubt is one thing, but....
....I suspect that if you saw a giant fiery meteor plunging towards you, you would not run until you were burned or crushed. |
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said by somrandomguy :They should have a GST/HST/PST [tax] number depending where they operate from, but they must have a business license to operate anywhere in Canada.
Screw speedtests, ask for the company paperwork.
No paperwork, no company, and is fraud.
Interesting.
Even MORE interesting is that I do not think that this was raised in the entire longer thread.
Should their tax number be posted on their website ?
Is there a law which governs this ?
Are they obligated by law to provide the company paperwork on request ? |
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CISP site seems to be down, or at least malfunctioning.
It goes to the URL, but no page seems to be present.
Anyone else notice this ?
www.canadianisp.ca
I was all gung-ho to register my brand new pretend ISP company, and now THIS ?!
EDIT : Browser or system resources problem at my end - resolved. |
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said by Davesnothere:said by somrandomguy :They should have a GST/HST/PST [tax] number depending where they operate from, but they must have a business license to operate anywhere in Canada.
Screw speedtests, ask for the company paperwork.
No paperwork, no company, and is fraud.
Interesting. Even MORE interesting is that I do not think that this was raised in the entire longer thread. Should their tax number be posted on their website ? Is there a law which governs this ? Are they obligated by law to provide the company paperwork on request ? You only need to collect HST if you max over XXX dollars a year. |
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said by Davesnothere:said by somrandomguy :They should have a GST/HST/PST [tax] number depending where they operate from, but they must have a business license to operate anywhere in Canada.
Screw speedtests, ask for the company paperwork.
No paperwork, no company, and is fraud.
Interesting. Even MORE interesting is that I do not think that this was raised in the entire longer thread. Should their tax number be posted on their website ? Is there a law which governs this ? Are they obligated by law to provide the company paperwork on request ? If you want to call them out on being frauds, go after them at the business level. Reselling IP space or being a whitelabel with no proper reverse dns does happen.
Registering a business name is required for all businesses in Canada, unless you're using your own name. To open a business bank account, you require one. To purchase insurance, you require one. GST/PST/HST is more fuzzy in that you don't necessarily need to in order to operate, but a proper business would have it.
Of course, to register a business costs about $50 for sole or about $500 for incorporated so it just depends how serious they want to look. Business paperwork would also prove operating dates and none of this "been around for XX years" stuff.
I don't think there's any legal requirements to show to customers, but for all the city level business licenses I've seen require the city business license to be prominently displayed in a retail/office environment where people can see it as proof. A legit business would have no problems giving this information.
So my stance is unless they can produce any paperwork (City or Federal), they are a fraud.
I mean, they have a GST/HST/PST number on their bills right happy customers?
I think there's a website where you can search for it too but too lazy to poke into it deeper. |
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said by rogersmogers
You only need to collect HST if you max over XXX dollars a year.
Which of course a legit ISP with several staff members and a long history of clients would be well above  |
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| Unless you are NOT a CA based company, you are able to do business there and not collect/charge taxes on services you sell in Canada. |
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kudos:6 | said by TBBroadband:Unless you are NOT a .CA based company, you are able to do business there and not collect/charge taxes on services you sell in Canada.
Unclear to me, possibly due to choice of words.
Did you mean 'If' instead of 'Unless' ? (the company is not based in Canada....), because I currently DO deal with some US-based companies for services, without explicitly having to pay taxes. |
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kudos:11 | reply to TBBroadband
Right, but the recipient of your goods has to declare them on entry or when filing a gst/hst/pst tax return and pay up then |
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Both threads are trending on Google right now.
An earlier Westlink post from the old thread is at #5 on page 1.
The new (current) thread is at #10 on page 1, though it was higher yesTURDay for a period.
I am curious as to what homage is being paid for CISP to rank consistently at #2 on page 1 of Google search for Westlink ? |
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said by Davesnothere:I was all gung-ho to register my brand new pretend ISP company, and now THIS ?!
EDIT : Browser or system resources problem at my end - resolved.
That's because you're using a 'downgrade computer with a crappy keyboard from the 90's'. |
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kudos:6 | said by JoePro:said by Davesnothere:I was all gung-ho to register my brand new pretend ISP company, and now THIS ?!
EDIT : Browser or system resources problem at my end - resolved.
That's because you're using a 'downgrade computer with a crappy keyboard from the 90's'.
HeHeHe !!! 
(so you have been following very closely then)
BTW, I HAVE been to the CISP site, and the form to register an ISP does not really ask for very much info about the ISP itself.
Much more is devoted to what service tiers and in which regions they are offered.
The form would be easy to fool, IMNSHO. |
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| said by Davesnothere:HeHeHe !!!
(so you have been following very closely then)
Been following the original thread religiously. When I'm bored at work, I usually bring it up and hope for new posts
I'm kicking myself not picking up on it before it got to page 20! |
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This thread is #5 for me now, with links #7, 8, 9 and 10 also referencing these posts. |
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donkey
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Montreal, QC | I am saddened that John or any of his shrills haven't replied to this thread, did they give up?
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How about "Dave-net" Lol |
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kudos:6 | reply to got_milk
said by got_milk:This thread is #5 for me now, with links #7, 8, 9 and 10 also referencing these posts.
Very K00L !
We're on Page 1 of Google results for Westlink Cable !
5, 9, 10 for posts from old thread
8 for current thread |
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Westlinkcable.net and Westlink Cable = SCAM said by donkey:I am saddened that John or any of his shills haven't replied to this thread, did they give up?
John and his shills/trolls/minions likely have finally figured out that if they reply here, that it boosts this thread's position on Google's SEO.
And then more folks will find out the REAL purpose of John MacArthur-Bankes' fake company Westlink Cable, and will tell their friends and families to BEWARE !
Soon they will all learn that the ONLY family whose values are being served by it is John's.
And soon John will run out of provinces in which to operate scams. |
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1 recommendation | reply to Ian
Re: Westlinkcable.net and Westlink Cable is a scam I want to get this on the front page but I need more facts. Do we have any other hard data tying Westlink to CableGator and previous incarnations? Shared html? I see the resemblance is clear enough, but what else do we have tying Westlink to these other attempts? |
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Gloucester, ON | reply to rogersmogers
incorrect. |
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sbrookPremium,Mod
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1) Compare ... the posts by rob403 in calgary living in assisted housing having Cable Gator providing Shaw Business service to him ... with ... the posts by afterall676 in calgary living in assisted housing having WestLink providing Shaw Business service to him ... never mind the writing style and use of offensive language when frustrated.
2) Westlink advertised for 5 customer service agents in New Brunswick with the same cell phone number (I believe) used by John Bankes - MacArthur when contacting people. Unfortunately nobody took a screenshot of the ad, so we can't verify it, since the kijiji ad is gone. (Either it timed out, or kijiji heeded the complaints!)
3) John Bankes - MacArthur lives in Rexton NB. A small village on the other side of a coastal inlet from Richibucto NB ... another small village. On the West Link website, if you click on Calgary at the top, it gives Locations. Lots in Alberta and BC (Shaw cable's footprint and where they say they operate), but also in the list are 4 places in New Brunswick ... Moncton (a city), Fredricton (capital city) and Rexton and Richibucto (village, . Why would they exclude St John the largest city in NB (127000) in favour of 2 little villages one population 880 and the other 1300 declining at 5% per year ofver the last 30 years!) if it wasn't for the fact that these are where John comes from????
Sadly, there is no true hard data. |
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Subcontractors for Shaw |
Also, Shaw Communications has now subcontracted work out to WestLinkCable, as seen.
So while doing up your story, why not ask a Shaw VP about what work they subcontract out to these clowns. After-all, Shaw should know since their name is splashed there as a Shaw subcontractor.
I would think that if someone is using Shaw Communications name to scam people they would step in. No?
So WestLink Cable must be legit since Shaw subcontracts to them. |
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Brampton, ON | reply to sbrook
»webcache.googleusercontent.com/s···nk&gl=ca |
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I have chatted with their customer service, they gave me their GOcable phone number as a contact number. |
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Westlinkcable.net and Westlink Cable is a scam |
Further, anyone can pretend to be a subcontractor to anything on the internet. |
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Back in the other thread before Westlink Cable appeared, JThompson posted several replies claiming to be the president and CEO of Go Cable Solutions. Look at the "About" page on WestLink Cable web page ...
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Westlink is owned and operated by Jeff Thompson Founder & CEO. Jeff has over 10 years experience in business management at other leading companies.
Also there was mention of a Jeff Powell as financial guy for Go Cable and lo and behold on the News page of the WestLink site
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Media Relations Officer J. Powell
These would appear to be the hardest evidence of the link between Go Cable (which appears to have gone) and WestLink ... pretty compelling evidence. |
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