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implode

join:2009-09-06
Columbia, MO
reply to twhiting9275

Re: New Data Caps

They are a new thing for most, as most people are loyal grandfathered users.


twhiting9275

join:2002-08-30
Waterloo, IA
Reviews:
·Mediacom

Actually, not "new" at all. Read through the forums here, you'll find people have been getting calls for at least a year, probably more like two, "informing" them that this was coming.

They actually put the caps in place a year or so ago, and yes, once you're off your initial year, you're forced into their closest available plan. This is how they've always done business.

Again, no, it's not a good idea, as it really breaks non competes, giving them the monopoly, but it's the way that they're ALL doing business now. The only way around it? Get the government involved, but that's not going to happen, either.



MediaCon

@mchsi.com
reply to implode

said by implode:

They are a new thing for most, as most people are loyal grandfathered users.

Yes for older users i agree. I have never recieved a phone call or email. i just happen to watch dslreports somewhat regular as to the happenings with Mediacom.
Today i recieved banners 1. stating sept 20 all be in place the the mechanisms to do the use/abuse i assume.
Just now banner 2 comes in stating i went over my limit. 160g used so for in 12 hours? and 350g limit. but they waive the overage fees? I thought Sept 7th was the deadline, but now i am really confused.


danawhitaker
Space...The Final Frontier
Premium
join:2002-03-02
Urbandale, IA

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reply to twhiting9275

said by twhiting9275:

Actually, not "new" at all. Read through the forums here, you'll find people have been getting calls for at least a year, probably more like two, "informing" them that this was coming.

They actually put the caps in place a year or so ago, and yes, once you're off your initial year, you're forced into their closest available plan. This is how they've always done business.

Again, no, it's not a good idea, as it really breaks non competes, giving them the monopoly, but it's the way that they're ALL doing business now. The only way around it? Get the government involved, but that's not going to happen, either.

So let's all sit back and not discuss it and just bend over and take it I suppose. Let's not show Mediacom we're upset by discussing it here and letting representatives of the company see what people think.

alarson83

join:2007-01-06
West Des Moines, IA
reply to MediaCon

One thing that bothers me is that those who use the most data overall arent necessarily ones causing congestion. If you sit at 20mbps downloading large files during peak hours, sure, you're adding to congestion.

But if you're like me and work from home, the simple fact that you're on the internet from this location more hours of the day means that you're going to download more. But my 8am to 5pm usage isnt increasing congestion. Mediacom with its cap is saying roughly 10 gigabit a day is ok. Ok, but 10 gigabit used all between 5 and 10 is a LOT different on the network than 10 gigabit spread from 8 to 10.

Another annoying thing is its not like you have to try to use a lot of data. In many ways you cant avoid it. More and more sites are running streaming video on load. Some of them do it on mute and you dont even know its happening, but its costing you part of your data allowance.


Clever Name
Premium
join:2005-05-06
Davenport, IA
reply to MediacomChad

said by MediacomChad:

If any of our customers changed their internet service as of 8/1/12 or later, then they are already on the Usage Based Billing that all customers will be on as of 9/7/13.

So no more grandfathered un-metered service? I guess I'll change my 50/5 service then.


MediaCon

@mchsi.com

No, no more unmetered full out fun, on the residential side. biz class unlimited and double price


k9iua6

join:2004-05-23
Dubuque, IA
reply to alarson83

said by alarson83:

But if you're like me and work from home, the simple fact that you're on the internet from this location more hours of the day means that you're going to download more. But my 8am to 5pm usage isnt increasing congestion. Mediacom with its cap is saying roughly 10 gigabit a day is ok. Ok, but 10 gigabit used all between 5 and 10 is a LOT different on the network than 10 gigabit spread from 8 to 10.

Granted you are in a different situation, as might be others on this forum. Mediacom doesn't have a way to distinguish you from any other residential customer, short of you paying for a business account, as their record keeping will be by subscribed service tier. If you are working from home, then your employer should be reimbursing you for the overage charges caused by your work, or at least reimbursing you for a portion of your connect costs in general, or you might have to raise your overhead costs a little if self-employed. Or we can all lobby Mediacom to introduce some form of time-based usage charges, but it wouldn't surprise me that they would consider that too costly to implement for the number of customers it affects.

sean67854

join:2009-09-07
Urbandale, IA
reply to MediaCon

I think the biggest issue I am hearing out of these discussions is an issue of trust. Sure many of us chafe at the idea of having a limit to our activity, but the real issue is that we don't trust Mediacom to be accurate or honest with the meter. They blow smoke about everything else, why not this too?


alarson83

join:2007-01-06
West Des Moines, IA
reply to k9iua6

They could always make their caps revolve around their peak time if they were truly worried about congestion. Use as much as you want other times, but have a meter specifically for the peak hours.



RyanThaDude
Indiana's No. 1 Zero

join:2004-01-24
Walkerton, IN
Reviews:
·Mediacom
reply to MediaCon

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smh...


RyanThaDude
Indiana's No. 1 Zero

join:2004-01-24
Walkerton, IN
Reviews:
·Mediacom
reply to MediaCon

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Oh, and the meter is very accurate. Just four days in my new billing cycle, too.

implode

join:2009-09-06
Columbia, MO

@Ryan: Seems someone could get sued for such inaccuracies.

BTW, what program do you use to track that...think I may need to protect myself from inaccurate billing in the future.



RyanThaDude
Indiana's No. 1 Zero

join:2004-01-24
Walkerton, IN

It's part of my router (Netgear)


implode

join:2009-09-06
Columbia, MO

cool deal, I don't mess with my router too much...any idea where in my router it would be, seeing as I also have a netgear.



RyanThaDude
Indiana's No. 1 Zero

join:2004-01-24
Walkerton, IN
Reviews:
·Mediacom

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Login to router -> Advanced Tab -> Advanced Setup -> Traffic Meter

Edit: Should say I have a WNDR3700 (v3). Yours may be different.

OT: Looking at this thread while I pay this month's bill. My stomach hurts...

darkwolf74

join:2010-09-12
Murray, KY

I just started running DD-WRT to better track usage as well. Though I did end up opting to bump to the 350GB limit.

That said, Is the limit truly GB or is it Gb? If it's GigaBYTE, then I should never come near reaching it.



RyanThaDude
Indiana's No. 1 Zero

join:2004-01-24
Walkerton, IN

I was running DD-WRT, but it wasn't very stable on my router. Worked great on my previous WRT54GL & TL-1043, though.

The website lists as GB, which is gigabyte. 250Gb would only be 31.25GB, which most of could easily blow in just a few days.


implode

join:2009-09-06
Columbia, MO
reply to RyanThaDude

My router is (probably a lot older then that)....I don't see any similar options.


kwbelt1

join:2006-06-03
Marion, IL

1 recommendation

reply to darkwolf74

said by darkwolf74:

Though I did end up opting to bump to the 350GB limit.



We did the same thing.

The thing I find the most annoying of all this is that we're now picking a plan for how much data we 'might' use. In my area we can't plan for more than 350 because Mediacom doesn't have faster than 30/2 here. If they're going to base caps on 4 tiers of service all 4 tiers should be rolled out everywhere or caps in areas without all 4 should be adjusted.

Clever Name
Premium
join:2005-05-06
Davenport, IA
reply to MediaCon

Anyone buy the 105/10mbit package? They're going to charge me $99 a month. Supposedly none of that is internet only surcharge.

They said there currently weren't any promos available. Maybe she was misinformed. Anything going on right now I'd be eligible for to knock it down below $99 for a year Chad?

Edit - how did I know it wouldn't be as simple as rebooting the modem. Now to wait for tech support to actually change me over to 105mbit from 50mbit.


SeaFoam

join:2009-05-20

I have the 105 for $99, no contract. I only have the service, modem and tax charge.

So it's a little over $105 a month.



ltsnow
Premium
join:2006-04-08
Valdosta, GA
kudos:1

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reply to MediaCon

As several others have said I think that is quite obvious that caps have nothing to do with congestion or sharing bandwidth equally. It all has to do with cable companies trying to preserve the TV part of their service. If it was about congestion they could easily come up with better solutions. For example, allow people to download all they want between the hours of midnight and 6AM (not count against the cap). This would relieve some the peak hour pressure. But they won't do that because people would then tend to download movies and TV shows during those hours, which would defeat their interests.

The sad thing is that this seems to be the wave of the future and companies keep trying to preserve dying business models e.g. the movie industry when they were first threatened by TV in the 1950s, the RIAA and MPAA currently, etc. It is absurd for a cable company, which for years pushed unlimited downloads as an advertising point, to now try to discourage people from using it. This is exactly what caps do because people are having to be constantly worried that they will exceed their limit.

One last thing. I just don't see how 3% of the users who are heavy consumers could so adversely affect the other 97%. After all, congestion occurs during peak hours when many of the light users (97%) are on at the same time. The heavy users presumably are on at many different times of the day.



lotusracer
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join:1999-11-26
Moline, IL
Reviews:
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said by ltsnow:

As several others have said I think that is quite obvious that caps have nothing to do with congestion or sharing bandwidth equally. It all has to do with cable companies trying to preserve the TV part of their service.

anybody that believes differently is delusional.....
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drslash
Goya Asma
Premium
join:2002-02-18
Marion, IA

2 recommendations

reply to ltsnow

said by ltsnow:

One last thing. I just don't see how 3% of the users who are heavy consumers could so adversely affect the other 97%. After all, congestion occurs during peak hours when many of the light users (97%) are on at the same time. The heavy users presumably are on at many different times of the day.

Since common sense dictates that the 3% would not be a valid reason for imposing caps on everybody, the common sense conclusion is that caps for everybody means that Mediacom wants to control everybody's usage, which points straight to preserving the TV service revenue. It is laughable that Mediacom expects us to believe what they say. Mediacom is telling us it's raining when they are really pissing on us. The Mediacom employees in this forum only tout the 3% as the company line and never say anything about preserving TV service revenue. The silence is telling and common sense rules the day.
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ltsnow
Premium
join:2006-04-08
Valdosta, GA
kudos:1

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said by drslash:

The Mediacom employees in this forum only tout the 3% as the company line and never say anything about preserving TV service revenue. The silence is telling and common sense rules the day.

Bingo, we have a winner. Let me be clear though that this is not directed at Chad or any other Mediacom employees on the boards personally. They all do a fantastic job and obviously have to toe the company line even when it is wrong and shortsighted.


drslash
Goya Asma
Premium
join:2002-02-18
Marion, IA

I agree. Chad and the others do a great job. OTOH, I could not do a job where the company line is to blatantly deceive and lie to customers.



MediaCon

@mchsi.com

drslash
Goya Asma
Premium
join:2002-02-18
Marion, IA

I agree. Chad and the others do a great job. OTOH, I could not do a job where the company line is to blatantly deceive and lie to customers.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Chad is more than one person, unless he can answer questions 16+ hours a day.
My son worked there bit over 3 yrs and they asked him to go against his core beliefs.
Lie to customers and make them think thier machines are broken when the system was.
That was quite a few yrs ago but i bet not much has changed.


ComputerEd

join:2013-08-24
Carbondale, IL

1 recommendation

reply to MediaCon

I have been fighting with Mediacom about this for a few days but for me it is not about the CAP. I can live with the cap, not is not a big deal. However for the past 6 years I have paid for 20+ down and 2 up. I was very specific when I signed up and was given the service I asked for.

My service however, when the cap goes into effect in about 2 weeks is being down graded according to Mediacom to 15/1. When I asked about this I was told I have always had 15/1. I explained my sign up and the specific request. They responded that with the last 4 months bills I am on the 15/1 plan.

I asked when was I downgraded and why was I not informed, you would think I was talking to an idiot rock because the smart rock could have followed the discussion better.

As a loyal customer, we have been with Mediacom as a company since 1994, I figured they would cut some kind of contract deal to give me back my full speed and the matter would be settled. Was I ever wrong. I was informed that if wantyed the service I have paid for all this time I would have to pay $20 a month more on my bill.

Well that ended that conversation pretty quick. The good news is Frontier has put in 24/2 service in Carbondale a few months ago and they offered it to me for $45 a month, that BTW is the same as Mediacom is expecting me to pay for 15/1. Add to this the fact that there is no cap and needless to say the move has started.

Also I spoke to Dish network and am getting the same cable channels I have now for $30 less than what I am paying Mediacom and that is not a promotional price (took the free Ipad). Finally they are charging us $40 a month for phone on Mediacom. Took the deal with Alltel for home phone and so in the end I am geting the same service for $50 less and no cap on my internet.

The shame is, if Mediacom had just given me the service I had been paying for and not tried to hike my costs, I would have stayed with them.



MediaCon

@mchsi.com

said by ComputerEd:

I have been fighting with Mediacom about this for a few days but for me it is not about the CAP. I can live with the cap, not is not a big deal. However for the past 6 years I have paid for 20+ down and 2 up. I was very specific when I signed up and was given the service I asked for.

My service however, when the cap goes into effect in about 2 weeks is being down graded according to Mediacom to 15/1. When I asked about this I was told I have always had 15/1. I explained my sign up and the specific request. They responded that with the last 4 months bills I am on the 15/1 plan.

I asked when was I downgraded and why was I not informed, you would think I was talking to an idiot rock because the smart rock could have followed the discussion better.

As a loyal customer, we have been with Mediacom as a company since 1994, I figured they would cut some kind of contract deal to give me back my full speed and the matter would be settled. Was I ever wrong. I was informed that if wantyed the service I have paid for all this time I would have to pay $20 a month more on my bill.

Well that ended that conversation pretty quick. The good news is Frontier has put in 24/2 service in Carbondale a few months ago and they offered it to me for $45 a month, that BTW is the same as Mediacom is expecting me to pay for 15/1. Add to this the fact that there is no cap and needless to say the move has started.

Also I spoke to Dish network and am getting the same cable channels I have now for $30 less than what I am paying Mediacom and that is not a promotional price (took the free Ipad). Finally they are charging us $40 a month for phone on Mediacom. Took the deal with Alltel for home phone and so in the end I am geting the same service for $50 less and no cap on my internet.

The shame is, if Mediacom had just given me the service I had been paying for and not tried to hike my costs, I would have stayed with them.

It's a real shame and they have been treating alot of their old customers this way. They obviously don't care about customer base at all. I am happy for you to get Frontier 24/2 and a dish. you probly saving money in the long run too.