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Cloneman

join:2002-08-29
Montreal
kudos:4
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
·Bell Fibe
reply to TilhasBB

Re: [TV] Can I order FibeTV on a different phone line than inter

You are mistaken. If you get fibeTV, you'll most likely get provisioned to ~ 35 / 10 , allowing you to record 3 x 6mbit HD streams plus one SD stream at 2mbits, while maintaining a 15/10 internet connection.

Here's the math:

15mbits internet
6 mbits HD stream #1
6mbits HD stream #2
6mbits HD stream #3
2mbits SD stream

= 35Mbits download speed.

Technically, bell should not allow you to use the excess speed when your TV's aren't working, but they do, lol.

Since I don't record much, I take it for granted that connection runs at 29/10 at any point in time (which it does).

When my modem reboots I've seen it occasionally operate at 15/10, but as soon as I use my television for a few minutes I can immediately download at 29/10 for weeks at a time.

When the TV is off you get the full 35mbit, which is more like 33mbit because of Sagemcrap's limitations.



TilhasBB
Premium
join:2000-08-05
canada

I think they fixed that issue a while ago, »[Internet] Speed doesn't increase when Fibe TV is off?


Cloneman

join:2002-08-29
Montreal
kudos:4

Well maybe I'm just lucky. I'm on stinger or whatever the lesser stable equipment is, if that makes any difference.its the reason I'm sticking to fibetv.



sm5w2
Premium
join:2004-10-13
St Thomas, ON
reply to Cloneman

> If you get fibeTV, you'll most likely get provisioned to ~ 35 / 10

Why is so much channel-capacity allocated to uploading? Isin't that wasted in the vast majority of use-cases? Why not shift the ratio to be more in favor of the download direction?


yyzlhr

join:2012-09-03
Scarborough, ON
kudos:4

said by sm5w2:

> If you get fibeTV, you'll most likely get provisioned to ~ 35 / 10

Why is so much channel-capacity allocated to uploading? Isin't that wasted in the vast majority of use-cases? Why not shift the ratio to be more in favor of the download direction?

I can't speak regarding the technical aspects, but from a marketing aspect it allows them to one up Rogers. Also a while back, Bell claimed in their marketing that they had the fastest speeds in Ontario and then they put a disclaimer in the fine print stating that they were simply referring to the upstream.


TypeS

join:2012-12-17
London, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
reply to sm5w2

said by sm5w2:

> If you get fibeTV, you'll most likely get provisioned to ~ 35 / 10

Why is so much channel-capacity allocated to uploading? Isin't that wasted in the vast majority of use-cases? Why not shift the ratio to be more in favor of the download direction?

There's no such ratio in play when it comes to determining the speeds on downstream and upstream. You're implying (for example on 35/10) that there's some global cap on speed at 45Mbps and it has to be split between the two streams. That's not the case. Decreasing the upload doesn't allow the download to be increase.

They physically operate in different frequency bands. What determines speeds on either stream is frequency allocated, modulation and encapsulation. Why do you think ADSL~ADSL2+ was stuck at 800kbps~1Mbps for so long despite the downlooad kept increasing to 24Mbps?

The ratio of frequency allocated to download compared to upload on either DSL or Cable as always been heavily tilted to download.


sm5w2
Premium
join:2004-10-13
St Thomas, ON

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> There's no such ratio in play when it comes to determining the speeds on downstream and upstream.

I thought that there is a finite number of tones that you can have on a line, and that you have to allocate some of them in a ratio for downloading vs uploading - meaning that some that are used for uploading could be re-assigned for downloading, thereby increasing the data-rate in the download direction.

>The ratio of frequency allocated to download compared to upload on either DSL
> or Cable has always been heavily tilted to download.

I wouldn't call a ratio of 35:10 to be "heavily" in favor of downloading. Look at my profile (7040:800) - that ratio favors downloading more than twice as much as 35:10 does.