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dod1450

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Att U-verse IPv6

I am getting tired of dealing with ATT tech support on trying to get IPV6.
I keep running into folks in India who has no idea what IPv6 is about. They read their d*** S**** script. When I tried to get someone on shore. They will either put me in the same line and take my chances of getting some on shore or put in in line and paid $45.00 for someone who is not train in IPv6.
All I am asking that I have ipv6 enable on my U-verse so that I can abide by ATT term of agreement which includes Ipv6.
The latest thing is that they had sent me another 3600 modem.
My contract is about to expire and I will be looking for another DSL vendor that provides native ipv6

Thank you for reading this.


Porthos

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"I will be looking for another DSL vendor that provides native ipv6"

Good luck with that where you live.

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reply to dod1450
I know AT&T is working on IPv6, however, when they will actually have it up and running is anyones guess.


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I hate to say this but not many ISPs have IPv6 operating on their networks.

There's really no need for IPv6 yet since there's still a lot of IPv4 IP addresses left in the IP address pools that many of the US ISPs have. Heck, even some of the big name data centers in the US still have vast amounts of IPv4 IP addresses still in their allocated pools.
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dod1450

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reply to Paralel
I have noticed that their DSL modems have IPv6 native turn on. I was able to add google ipv6 dns addresses from another user who had asked for my assistance.


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Yes, but AT&T's routers may not be instructed to handle the IPv6 packets yet. There's not a big rush to get IPv6 going in the US yet.
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reply to dod1450
Just wondering why worry about if you have IPv6 operational or not? It doesn't get you anything or to any place that IPv4 doesn't.

dod1450

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Reason are two specific, Webex video integration and some of the new games that only run on ipv6


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reply to trparky
said by trparky:

There's really no need for IPv6 yet ...

Unless you want to go to a web site in a region of the world where they have already exhausted their allotment of IPv4 IP addresses.
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reply to dod1450
said by dod1450:

Reason are two specific, Webex video integration and some of the new games that only run on ipv6

New games are requiring IPv6? Seriously? When less than 5% of the Internet is running IPv6? You've got to be kidding me!
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reply to Msradell
Too U.S. centric. There are already places in the world with IPv6 only connections.
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reply to NormanS
said by NormanS:

Unless you want to go to a web site in a region of the world where they have already exhausted their allotment of IPv4 IP addresses.

Most big name web sites, even in overseas countries, still have IPv4 addresses.

Again, less than 5% of the Internet is running IPv6. To require the use of IPv6 is cutting off a very large majority of the Internet market and from a marketing standpoint, that's plain stupid.
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owine
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reply to dod1450
Why not use a HE tunnel? Works fine for me.


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Did you mean, "IPv6 only"?
Facebook:
Tracing route to star.c10r.facebook.com [2a03:2880:f00d:401:face:b00c:0:1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1     4 ms     8 ms     8 ms  Chihiro [2001:470:1f05:448::1]
  2    36 ms    49 ms    48 ms  NKonaya-1.tunnel.tserv3.fmt2.ipv6.he.net [2001:470:1f04:448::1]
  3    34 ms    35 ms    40 ms  gige-g5-19.core1.fmt2.he.net [2001:470:0:45::1]
  4    38 ms    48 ms    49 ms  10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.sjc2.he.net [2001:470:0:31::2]
  5    47 ms    48 ms    48 ms  10gigabitethernet14-7.core1.lax2.he.net [2001:470:0:16a::2]
  6    77 ms    48 ms    44 ms  2001:504:13::5f
  7    50 ms    49 ms    47 ms  po126.msw01.05.lax1.tfbnw.net [2620:0:1cff:dead:bef0::f5]
  8    44 ms    49 ms    48 ms  2a03:2880:f00d:401:face:b00c:0:1
 
Trace complete.
 

Google:
Tracing route to www.google.com [2607:f8b0:4009:802::1012]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1     4 ms    <1 ms     7 ms  Chihiro [2001:470:1f05:448::1]
  2    44 ms    49 ms    49 ms  NKonaya-1.tunnel.tserv3.fmt2.ipv6.he.net [2001:470:1f04:448::1]
  3    46 ms    42 ms    52 ms  gige-g5-19.core1.fmt2.he.net [2001:470:0:45::1]
  4    39 ms    38 ms    57 ms  10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.sjc2.he.net [2001:470:0:31::2]
  5    46 ms    40 ms    48 ms  2001:4860:1:1:0:1b1b:0:9
  6    46 ms    42 ms    43 ms  2001:4860::1:0:7ea
  7    41 ms    38 ms    38 ms  2001:4860::8:0:2cb7
  8    97 ms    99 ms    99 ms  2001:4860::8:0:3426
  9    88 ms    96 ms    85 ms  2001:4860::8:0:281d
 10    86 ms    88 ms    92 ms  2001:4860::8:0:2fea
 11    91 ms    95 ms    98 ms  2001:4860::1:0:3f7
 12    96 ms    97 ms    99 ms  2001:4860:0:1::4da
 13    97 ms    89 ms    89 ms  ord08s08-in-x12.1e100.net [2607:f8b0:4009:802::1012]
 
Trace complete.
 

Yahoo!:
Tracing route to ds-any-fp3-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com [2001:4998:f011:1fe::3000]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1     4 ms     1 ms     4 ms  Chihiro [2001:470:1f05:448::1]
  2    40 ms    41 ms    48 ms  NKonaya-1.tunnel.tserv3.fmt2.ipv6.he.net [2001:470:1f04:448::1]
  3    38 ms    47 ms    45 ms  gige-g5-19.core1.fmt2.he.net [2001:470:0:45::1]
  4    46 ms    52 ms    43 ms  10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.sjc2.he.net [2001:470:0:31::2]
  5   100 ms   118 ms   113 ms  eqnx.pat1.sj6.yahoo.com [2001:504:0:1:0:1:310:1]
  6   120 ms   109 ms   119 ms  ae-4.pat2.sjc.yahoo.com [2001:4998:f005::1]
  7   122 ms   118 ms   118 ms  xe-3-1-0.pat1.lax.yahoo.com [2001:4998:f005:201::1]
  8   120 ms   113 ms   123 ms  r1.ycpi.vip.lax.yahoo.net [2001:4998:f011:1fe::3000]
 
Trace complete.
 

I wish I could show you my Sonic.net tunnel, but haven't figured out the cli commands to configure my router for it.

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dod1450

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reply to owine
I have avoided HE for the fact that many users have complain that the tunnel drops quite frequently. I live about 20 miles from their Fremont , Ca colo.

dod1450

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reply to NormanS
Exactly . Thanks for the printout.


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reply to trparky
said by trparky:

Yes, but AT&T's routers may not be instructed to handle the IPv6 packets yet. There's not a big rush to get IPv6 going in the US yet.

I would be very surprised if AT&T routers couldn't route IPv6 packets.
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mackey
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I wouldn't as PMTU discovery was completely borked on them last year; I haven't checked it recently.

/M


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reply to dod1450
said by dod1450:

some of the new games that only run on ipv6

Such as???


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said by Wily_One:

said by dod1450:

some of the new games that only run on ipv6

Such as???

Evade-the-IP-ban and see-just-how-good-the-firewall's-SPI-filtering-is (as it doesn't have NAT to fall back on) come to mind...

/M

Paralel

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reply to dod1450
If I'm not mistaken, AT&T ruined HE tunneling with the latest firmware upgrade somehow. I think we have a topic on that somewhere around here.


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said by Paralel:

If I'm not mistaken, AT&T ruined HE tunneling with the latest firmware upgrade somehow. I think we have a topic on that somewhere around here.

This has not been the case for me, my tunnel still works just fine.


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reply to trparky
said by trparky:

Most big name web sites, even in overseas countries, still have IPv4 addresses.

If all you ever do is visit "big name web sites", you will likely never need IPv6 in your lifetime, or your children's. But a backroad explorer will, sooner, or later, encounter a "hole in the wall" site, and the Vermont farmer's directions will come true: "You can't get there from here".


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reply to owine
said by owine:

Why not use a HE tunnel? Works fine for me.

what cpe are you running that on? I am assuming not a 2wire correct?


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reply to Paralel
I believe that was just for the 2wire products only, it's a security issue is what it is. So far I haven't seen any evidence/posts/topics stating this was disabled on the NVG589.


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David, I never pinged you back on the info you found out because I've been busy travelling for work. I am guessing the over zealous 2Wire security features broke the ability for a 6rd tunnel to NAT and pass through the router? I figured it was an order of operations issue with NAT and the native 6rd tunnel feature.
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Frodo

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reply to owine
said by owine:

This has not been the case for me, my tunnel still works just fine.

I've been monitoring the stats here. »www.uvrealtime.com/stats.aspx
If you have the two wire, from what I'm hearing on the other thread, tunneling works with the firmware 6.3.7.50-plus.tm. The tunneling breaks with firmware 6.9.1.42-plus.tm because it blocks protocol 41?

Checking it lately, it seems that the firmware is being distributed to the 3600's. They were at 0% two weeks ago.


dahan

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reply to dod1450
FWIW, I've been using AT&T's 6rd border relay for over a year, and have been happy with it.

traceroute6 to www.att.net (2001:1890:1c01:2::40) from 2602:304:b1b8:f420:a429:c746:dfe8:36d, 64 hops max, 16 byte packets
 1  2602:304:b1b8:f420::1  1.161 ms  1.012 ms  0.958 ms
 2  2602:300:c533:1510::24  30.134 ms *  33.287 ms
 3  attga409me3.ipv6.att.net  48.548 ms  49.471 ms  48.401 ms
 4  2001:1890:c00:8802::11cc:6c6d  58.623 ms  49.196 ms  50.760 ms
 5  2001:1890:1c01:2::40  56.807 ms  51.144 ms  49.489 ms
 


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what cpe are you using? also can you IM me your ban? I am trying to get this going for another person posting here.


dahan

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3800HGV-B, with my own router in the DMZ+