 matcarlPremium join:2007-03-09 Franklin Square, NY | reply to Mac973
[Channels] Re: New Channels coming in SEP said by Mac973:Yes, but still I'd like to be able to just page down in one continuous loop. It only works in the Full Guide menu, not the Favorites. |
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 Mac973 join:2009-05-18 West Orange, NJ | said by matcarl:said by Mac973:Yes, but still I'd like to be able to just page down in one continuous loop. It only works in the Full Guide menu, not the Favorites. Yeah, now that you say it I remember that being a problem. When I'm in the Favorites list the only way I can get back to the top is to type in the exact channel number of the first channel in my Favorites. |
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 | If I had a favorites list -- I've never set one up on my DVR -- it would only have about ten channels in it. I did set one up on my OTA HD set. That's limited to about eight channels, which is enough. There are over 100 OTA signals in the LA area. |
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As it was stated earlier in this thread, it's now confirmed on the FXX Page.
Great news! Starting September 2nd, FXX will be available through Verizon FiOS on channel 84 and channel 584 HD.
»www.getfxx.com/ |
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 | How lazy. Remap the stupid channel. Uggghhhh. |
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 | said by Greg2600:How lazy. Remap the stupid channel. Uggghhhh. Agreed, we aren't watching Aljazeera America on 192. |
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 aaronwtPremium join:2004-11-07 Woodbridge, VA Reviews:
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said by Mac973:said by JPL:I like that . One improvement they could make - let me customize my channel ordering. Have a default numbering, but then let me order them anyway I want in the guide. I would settle for something even simpler. When I'm scrolling through the guide and get to the bottom, it should automatically advance me to the top (beginning) of the guide. I should not have to manually scroll backwards through all the channels again to get to the top. This seems like such a simple fix. I don't have that problem on my TiVos. |
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said by bohratom:I'm gonna go out on a limb with what we know about the channels that have migrated to mpeg4 and say that within the next 30 days at least 3 new HD channels will be added. One definately will be SONY HD, FS2 will be the second (Fox Soccer of course will be FXX HD) and the third will be HD2 (just a hunch)...
Tune back in 30 days to see how it turned out...  Just out of curiosity, what is "HD2"
I searched around and couldn't find anything other than a type of smartphone. |
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 | I think the "OP" was referring to H2, for History2, available in SD @ ch 127, but not HD yet;widely asked for in HD. -- "My hat, my cane, Jeeves". |
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said by More Fiber:said by TitusTroy:which channels are currently mpeg4? You know I think most of the .TV stuff is worthless, but what I don't understand is why there is never any programming information in the quide or even in the info screen. How do you even know what is on the channel when you are scrolling? I might actually watch something if I saw something I was interested in but I am not going to spend time there if I don't know what is even playing. See this thread: » [Channels] MPEG-4 is now being used for the .TV channels -- Go Heels! |
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FXX is on the air now. Channels 84/584. FOX Soccer logo is still appearing, likely since it's Labor Day with few people at work to update it.
Hope FXX moves to the 50/550s this week. |
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 | I hope FXX moves too. It would seem more natural to put FS2 in the 584 slot since FS1 is at 583. |
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Watching Parks & Recreation of FXX and  |
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Love to hear Verizon's explanation for why they are incapable of changing a channel number. |
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 | Change the channel number? - are you kidding - they haven't even changed the logo for the channel, even though they had knowledge of the change-over for months in advance. And please don't tell me it's delayed because of the holiday - this could have been easily programmed in beforehand and besides, we still pay for and they still provide service on holidays.
I have also noticed the MLB package channels and the .tv's don't have logos either. |
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 bohratomJersey Shore is back again. join:2011-07-07 Red Bank NJ 1 edit | reply to FIOS4cable
Seems they removed Sony Movies On Demand under Free Movies. Could be they are getting ready for Sony Movies to only be available to UltimateHD subscribers...
Update: Seems the folder is back so disregard... |
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 JPLPremium join:2007-04-04 Downingtown, PA kudos:3 | reply to robertf390
Holidays are dead periods for s/w developers. Meaning, you don't change ANYTHING going into a holiday weekend. Not because it can't be done, or even because it's hard. But because ANY change you make can break something else. Anyone with any programming experience will tell you that. It's not that the programmers can't do it and then leave for the weekend. It's because their support staff is going to be lighter than usual during a holiday weekend. And if something goes wrong... not only will the tech support be overwhelmed (they'll get slammed), but they'll be forced to call folks in to fix whatever needs to be fixed... which is an expensive way to do it. And, yes, stuff can go wrong all on its own without anyone touching anything. But update your s/w going into such a weekend, and you increase your likelihood of something going wrong.
Again, this isn't specific to Verizon. Pretty much all s/w houses operate this way. Not to mention the fact that lots of customers are home during that weekend. Which means that they'll have lots of time to call in. So if something does go wrong, you're much more likely to hear from your customers during such a period. Which only serves to compound the problem. |
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 | said by JPL: Pretty much all s/w houses operate this way. Healthcare IT too. And not just holiday weekends. We won't make even the smallest change on a Friday unless it's absolutley critical. |
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 JPLPremium join:2007-04-04 Downingtown, PA kudos:3 | Yep. Pretty much anywhere. It's especially true of critical systems. My brother does IT for a retail outfit. They don't do ANYTHING to their system after the beginning of October. They don't want any chance of instability leading into black friday. Any downtime during that period costs their company alot of business. For that reason, they not only won't touch their system before that weekend, they won't touch it for at least a month before-hand. They want their system to be as stable as possible. |
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FXX has to be moved to a different channel, like it has been said earlier, near FX is the logical move.
But AT LEAST it should go in the Comedy area (Low 190/690s). Maybe next to Comedy Central?? In the middle of the Sports Neighborhood, it will never get viewed. Or even remembered after this early curious turn in period, mostly by us media geeks.
As far as FS2, Verizon has never committed it to go HD or get moved to 84/854. And based on it's programming so far, it should be moved into the SD Low 300s, anyway. It's not worthy of a limited HD spot .. yet. Of course I want every channel in HD, but that's a different conversation. |
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 nascar join:2000-02-28 Verona, NJ kudos:2 | Many would disagree...
For those that want FS2 in HD.... Please vote...
»forums.verizon.com/t5/Share-Your···5#M27781
said by charliewatts:As far as FS2, Verizon has never committed it to go HD or get moved to 84/854. And based on it's programming so far, it should be moved into the SD Low 300s, anyway. It's not worthy of a limited HD spot .. yet. Of course I want every channel in HD, but that's a different conversation. |
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As I've said many times, as someone in charge of a retail store system, I would be thoroughly embarrassed if I couldn't send down something as simple as new logos or a channel number change without it taking 2 months. Other providers don't have these delays. It's like Verizon can't do anything without taking an absurd amount of time. |
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| said by Greg2600:As I've said many times, as someone in charge of a retail store system, I would be thoroughly embarrassed if I couldn't send down something as simple as new logos or a channel number change without it taking 2 months. Other providers don't have these delays. It's like Verizon can't do anything without taking an absurd amount of time. Verizon may be waiting to realign the channel number until they add more HD channels, which I believe is finally going to happen "soon." |
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 | said by PJL:said by Greg2600:As I've said many times, as someone in charge of a retail store system, I would be thoroughly embarrassed if I couldn't send down something as simple as new logos or a channel number change without it taking 2 months. Other providers don't have these delays. It's like Verizon can't do anything without taking an absurd amount of time. Verizon may be waiting to realign the channel number until they add more HD channels, which I believe is finally going to happen "soon." I agree PJL. Of course, I dont know why they didnt add the new HD's and Re-sort all Yesterday/Today. |
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| said by damink23:said by PJL:said by Greg2600:As I've said many times, as someone in charge of a retail store system, I would be thoroughly embarrassed if I couldn't send down something as simple as new logos or a channel number change without it taking 2 months. Other providers don't have these delays. It's like Verizon can't do anything without taking an absurd amount of time. Verizon may be waiting to realign the channel number until they add more HD channels, which I believe is finally going to happen "soon." I agree PJL. Of course, I dont know why they didnt add the new HD's and Re-sort all Yesterday/Today. The final step of adding new channels is not a "quick" process. I suspect they have everything in the back end delivery pipeline built and ready to go, but implementing it is usually done one VHO at a time, and over a week or so. |
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there's no real pressing need for Fox Sport 2 HD right now...not enough of an overflow to make that channel worthwhile...same people clamoring for FS2 HD must be the same people going nuts for MSG+++ HD  |
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 Mac973 join:2009-05-18 West Orange, NJ | reply to FIOS4cable
This "problem" is not unique to Verizon. From what I've read on other message boards the other TV providers have not yet moved FXX's channel position either, and it's still mixed in with the sports channels. |
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 | Ironically I'll probably see a lot more of FXX while it's in its present location. I couldn't even tell you where FX is. I'm still catching up on "It's Always Sunny..." on NetFlix. |
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 JPLPremium join:2007-04-04 Downingtown, PA kudos:3 | reply to Greg2600
said by Greg2600:As I've said many times, as someone in charge of a retail store system, I would be thoroughly embarrassed if I couldn't send down something as simple as new logos or a channel number change without it taking 2 months. Other providers don't have these delays. It's like Verizon can't do anything without taking an absurd amount of time. First thing on this: "didn't" isn't the same as "couldn't". It just amazes me that so many are willing to attribute this to incompetence. Point is, there are many valid reasons why this would be. I don't know what it is, but risk mitigation is a valid reason. It's not only a question of what they're able to do, but there's a quesiton of what they're willing to do when. There's a risk associated with any change, and the question that has to be asked is if the reward is worth the risk? It's just a fact that many systems live with bugs that are known, and even if the solutions are known, but they're kept out there because they're not seen as worth fixing.
I don't believe that's the case here - I think PJL is right - I think there's a bigger regrouping that's going to go on, and they're just waiting to do it all at once. There's something to be said for that. Every time they do a regrouping, it causes some upheaval with consumers. If they KNOW a number of such additions/regroupings are coming, they could have just made the decision that it's better to wait.
Point is - there could be any number of reasons why. The fact that so many are just, knee-jerk fashion, willing to attribute it to gross incompetence is, frankly, head-scratching. Especially since they've demonstrated repeatedly their ability at regrouping channels (I already used the example of all those HD additions they did a few years ago - they managed a massive regrouping with no issues at all, so why would we all assume that they couldn't do this?). |
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The whole 'regrouping' conversation is nothing but pure speculation. Has anyone on this board, or others, with actual insider information mentioned 'regrouping'? I'm guessing no.
FS1 was in the proper group or neighborhood when it premiered. That worked. FS2 took the place and channel location of another 2nd tier sports channel, so it's all the same. It was in the wrong place to start. So no gain or change.
FXX is obviously in the wrong neighborhood, and should be moved. Will it? Dunno.
AJA was rightly moved near other news channels, after all the paranoia and way out speculation here.
Esquire will be on 191 SD. No biggie there.
SONY HD will likely go near MGM HD. The new stupid .tv channels will go ......... no idea! One is all Court room shows (awful, crap tv) and could get placed near ID or Smithsonian.
But these are my guesses. We know these channels have begun or are coming. Regrouping? I doubt it. But like I said, I'm guessing, too. |
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