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Re: 45 meg tier available in CHICAGO...AFTER INSTALL NOTES, etc

I was in contact with janning and explained the whole pair bonding concept.
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Max user rate has little to do with qualification for the Power tier. What matters most is SNR/Attenuation and how noisy the line is. Along with the better NVG589, capable of pulling better stats, your profile rate will actually be LOWERED from 32/5 to 27/3. Another 27/3 line will be hooked up, for 54/6.

I tend to hit "Reply OP" a lot. I was talking to the person that was worried about their max rate and their ability to upgrade due to some "minimum" max rate. The only "minimum" there is, is that the max rate has 20% overhead versus the profile rate.

In other words, for the 27/3, 27715/0.8 = 34644 minimum max rate.

Paralel 's »Re: faster Uverse speeds (Project VIP) coming soon?

note the line1-down sync rate versus max attainable (40851 vs 46696): TOO CLOSE. Can't fit 20% overhead, can't fit 5:4 FEC overhead.

So thought while 2wire's max-rate appears to be RAW,
NVG589 max attainable appears to be NET;

unless NVG589 just gets REALLY sloppy and can't be counted on for accurate stat reporting half the time.

Yet consider JTIZZLE614 's stellar max attainable 72336 »Re: 45/6 but my profile is set at 35

Doesn't matter if even NET rates exceed 8d's max (IIRC) of 50M, right?: Merely evidence the line can support the future faster-than-8d profiles...

there is 30a which has a top rate of 200Mbps per line as well so I think 300Mbps would be the top for uverse not 150Mbps currently as you mention Paralel

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very-high-···r_line_2

Disagree, 30a uses a completely different carrier bandwidth than all the other profiles. I don't see AT&T investing in what would be needed to support it. If they were, they'd be doing it instead of going for the 17a profile.

Hi, I never answered your question, I read in several places:
1) 24/3 will be auto bumped to 30/3...no more 24/3
2) 45/6 coming out Sept 30, 2013
3) 60/6 Future planed no dates/prices given (estimated date Dec. 2013)
4) 75/10 Future planed no dates/prices given
5) 100/10 Future planed no dates/prices given

That's pretty much word for word the way it was listed. I don't remember the specific sites, if you google enough, you should be able to find it.

30a would likely be a last ditch effort for At&t before they figure out how to get better vectoring to work and or go to fiber-to-the-home. I think the only reason why At&t is shooting for 17a instead of 30a is likely line frequency ratings for the older copper (lead cabling, and paper cable)

I don't know what At&t is going to do but in the Dallas area TWC is up to something they are slowly activating 6.4MHz upstream carriers and it looks like each node will have 3 of them with 1 3.2MHz wide carrier so looks like TWC is getting ready to up the upstream speeds I have a feeling. already nationwide we have gotten a boost to 5.9Mbps raw on the 30/5 package which is really 35/5.9 before overhead. So yeah I have a feeling At&t is going to have to get something going to increase speeds as I think TWC plans on having about 100Mbps shared upstream bandwidth per node here so they can hand congestion at night with the higher packages.

Does an upgrade install from 1 pair 32M profile to the 2 pair x 27M profile really take "5-8 hours" ?! I'm guessing that is worst case for a full triple play install from scratch. I can't see it taking more than an hour in my case. Will probably spend the bulk of the time setting up the 589 than anything else.
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I don't know, mine took about two hours to complete. And that was with the fact that the installer had to call somebody because I was initially assigned (I think he said) the wrong pair. She he had to call somebody to have a different pair assigned.
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