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Re: Need cable solution, 1200-2000m between possible AP

some things to consider / long term planning:
If you can get a neighbor to agree to a wireless solution theres a few things to keep in mind in long term thinking.
- They may need to up their tier to support their use plus your family usage.
- cost needs to shared / worked out and agreed in advance
- any routers / antenna(s) that have to go in the neighbors house should be kept out of the living space as much as possible. For example if you need to provide them a high powered router try to put it in the attic if possible this will also provide height.
- Be aware in the long term the neighbors may sell their house / move in the future . It needs to be worked out if you / your parents can retrieve the equipment .

While wireless with a neighbor may get internet quickly and provide a good short term solution i would still go beyond this and see if the other houses on the private road can all get together and approach the cable company on a united front to bring service in. This is the best solution in the long run. (in other words do the wireless now if you can but work on something more long term.)

How do I do that?

Before you get too deep into the weeds, as someone earlier said, CALL the phone company customer service department. It is very possible the DSL data base is incorrect.
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There's a story for that, too. they said that even though we could use dsl, that it might as well be dial-up because of our distance from the site.

How do I do that?

I don't see why Comcast won't put an access point on that street with cable. my ISP has them all over, and nobody has to ask for them..

Because it might not be cost effective for them to install a one mile line down a street where maybe 5 people might join

Does the town or township have a franchise agreement with Comcast? If so there should be a stipulation that if there are x houses/mile, they are required to provide service. Call the town/township hall and ask the clerk if they have a copy, and then go read it.
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I live slightly outside of city limits, but I can check into it.

Update on the authority: I live in Florida -
"By state statute ( Chapter 610 section 108 ), as of July 1, 2009, the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services has the sole authority to respond to all cable or video service customer complaints. Cable franchises are now issued by the Florida Department of State, effectively eliminating local franchise authorities.

Does anyone know what kind of pole to use to mount the antenna and where to get one?

edit - nevermind, there's a high place to put it just below the roof.

Which should I get?
»www.radiolabs.com/products/wirel···ular.php
»www.radiolabs.com/products/wirel···link.php

I talked to a rep from comcast, and they don't care if I share a connection with a neighbor because they won't add a second line in a home.

Just found out that on the other side of the street, the line is tapped, so the only one on record is one house on the corner 1/2 mile away. I can get line of sight from the front of my property, but there is a tree farm in the way if we don't want an ugly antenna in front of our nice white fence. the power pole goes over it entirely, but I doubt I'd get permission to put an antenna on it. I need a non line of sight antenna.

It's more pricey than the others, but here's one I found:
»www.radiolabs.com/products/wirel···ular.php

Check my old posts on going through foliage in the wireless ISP forum. A medium gain dual polarization panel antenna on your property will catch both horizontal and vertical polarization from a high performance MIMO router. You don't need a circular polarization antenna for going through a tree farm.

How many people would it take on a one mile street to have comcast extend service free of charge?

Once again: Ask the town or township or parish what housing density Comcast agreed to to get the franchise. It is not a matter of how many people promise to sign up, it is how many houses per mile are on the road.
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I'm still waiting for the comcast guys to come and check out the area. In the mean time, I'd like to finish estimating for the wireless option. Would it help if I posted an areal view?

tim - I have no idea what organization takes care of that in my area because we are not within city limits. I can start talking to people after comcast checks the area. Then I figure out what it would take for comcast to run a line and who'd love it and who'd be indifferent.

I've talked with my parents, and they say they'd love for comcast to run a line for TV also. (we lose signal a lot from rain)

Wireless, sharing and Comcast is a clear violation of their Terms of Service and violates the cable theft act. Its stupid, I don't agree but it does. Any further information in that regard falls under asking to do something illegal and that is against the rules unfortunately.

We'd love to run on our own separate line.

Comcast said no two lines can be put in one residence and that it was fine to connect wirelessly given the situation. Despite the obvious conflict, that's what the rep said.

I think that it should qualify as separate locations despite two physical lines in one house. I'll call again tomorrow and see if the same is said twice.

update: »[Bill] Two Accounts - One Address?

seems as if it can be done with different billing adresses

What a sales rep on the telephone tells you has absolutely no bearing.

»www.comcast.com/Corporate/Custom···AUP.html

I don't see it. Is there a part about the difference between a residence and a billing address? The main line would be connected to two modems in one residence to supply connection to two addresses. It's done in rental situations, so I think it can be done as long as the billing addresses are different.

Turns out that we cannot use a billing address that is not "serviceable" by comcast, meaning that either way, I need to convince comcast to extend their service.

My suggestion is to find a neighbor that is within line of sight, willing to share, and will let you mount radio equipment. Give them a donation every month to help cover the cost of their connection, and put a router on your side of the link to isolate your networks. You could even order two public IP's so that you each have a separate connection.

If you convince them to extend service to your location, then you can sign up and take down the radio link. The ISP does not care how many PC's are behind the router, or if they are in the house, the barn, or up the street. The neighbor is not attempting to resell his connection to others, which would be a problem without paying for a business-class service that allowed it. Since they won't service your location, you are not cheating them out of the monthly fee.

Wow, thanks!