 billaustinthey call me Mr. BillPremium,MVM
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Re: Need cable solution, 1200-2000m between possible AP said by wirelessdog:said by billaustin:The ISP does not care how many PC's are behind the router, or if they are in the house, the barn, or up the street.
For once, I wish people would research before posting. Your statement is absolutely incorrect. Under "Network and usage restrictions" "connect the Comcast Equipment to any computer outside of your Premises;" Just because it is written in their TOS does not mean they can, or will try to enforce it. They have better things to do than chase down the odd user with a radio link and attempt legal action to stop it.
If you are not trying to resell a residential account for profit, or share so that others who could are not buying a connection, the majority of ISP's do not care how many PC's are behind your router or where they are located.
The OP is in a situation where you need to think outside the box to get something done, and don't ask/don't tell comes into play. Comcast cannot stop you from installing radios. Unless you tell them what you are doing, they don't know and really don't care, especially if he pays for a separate connection for his use. |
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It's 5 days and still no call from comcast. Will they contact me or will I need to call them again? |
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 nunyaWho is John Galt?Premium,MVM
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kudos:10 | The magic 8 ball says: "Concentrate and ask again". |
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billaustinthey call me Mr. BillPremium,MVM
join:2001-10-13
North Las Vegas, NV
kudos:3 | reply to John01
What did you discuss during your last conversation with them?
Did they say they would call you back?
Did they give you a number to call for updates?
If they have to involve engineering to provide an answer, it could be several weeks. |
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said by John01:It's 5 days and still no call from comcast. Will they contact me or will I need to call them again?
it is going to take time. Even if they do agree to run a line down the private road this could be months even a year away. In the mean time pursue / talk to your neighbor house on the street over about trying for a roommate account. Plan/ decide on radio equipment / plan with your parents in case the line does not get run. |
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They said it would be done in 2-3 days and they'd contact me. |
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billaustinthey call me Mr. BillPremium,MVM
join:2001-10-13
North Las Vegas, NV
kudos:3 | I would wait until next Wednesday. If they have not called by then, call and ask for a status update. |
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So I'll talk to my neighbor this weekend.
Could I transmit the RF coax signal over the wireless link through the ethernet connection with a media converter? - In case we want comcast tv as well. |
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 leiboldPremium,MVM
join:2002-07-09
Sunnyvale, CA
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| On which end of the wireless link would you put the Comcast TV receiver ?
If you put the receiver at your neighbors home your wireless link would only need to transmit the bandwidth of a single tv channel (which could still be significant if you want high definition tv). You would then need to remote control the receiver from your home (some media converters like slingbox include that functionality). The comcast receiver and the media converter would be additional pieces of equipment that you need to install at your neighbors home.
If you are thinking about placing one or more receivers in your home you are facing severe technical issues (1 to 2 GHz of RF bandwidth don't easily squeeze into a single wireless ethernet channel). If this was possible, the cable companies would be doing it instead of running miles of coax cable from pole to pole.
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said by billaustin:Just because it is written in their TOS does not mean they can, or will try to enforce it. They have better things to do than chase down the odd user with a radio link and attempt legal action to stop it.
Just because it isn't enforced doesn't make it right or legal. |
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| If peanut butter and jelly sandwiches were outlawed (and they have been before), nobody enforces the law, and everybody knows that the law is unjust, why would anybody stop making and eating pb&j sandwiches?
Of course, there's always the one person stealing or hording the banned good or service that providing companies restrict from their supply, and rightfully so, but the regulation is variable depending on type of use. |
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The point is what you are trying to do is against the terms of service at best, illegal at worst and against the rules at DSLR |
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New development - FPL Fibernet has a line running parallel to my street and is expanding their network They run both fiber and wireless. I'm currently trying to contact them. |
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billaustinthey call me Mr. BillPremium,MVM
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North Las Vegas, NV
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1 recommendation | reply to wirelessdog
said by wirelessdog:said by billaustin:Just because it is written in their TOS does not mean they can, or will try to enforce it. They have better things to do than chase down the odd user with a radio link and attempt legal action to stop it.
Just because it isn't enforced doesn't make it right or legal. First of all, the ISP's TOS is not law, it is a part of the agreement between you and them. If you violate it, you can get your service disconnected, not go to jail. Violating the TOS may be an issue of right and wrong, but not legal and illegal.
The OP is not asking for assistance to commit a crime. He is trying to find a way to get useable internet in an area not currently served, and he is willing to pay for the service.
Instead of nitpicking the finer points, look at the big picture. If he gets a second connection at the neighbors house, that he is paying for, and beams it to his house, is the ISP really going to take issue with it? He is paying for what he consumes, only consuming at one location, and they don't have the expense of installing cable in the street to collect his money. |
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billaustinthey call me Mr. BillPremium,MVM
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Re: Need cable solution, 1200-2000m between possible AP said by John01:What about business class?
Business-class service would be required if you wanted to resell your connection to others.
Business-class service is usually twice as much as residential, and normally has no usage caps.
Ordering Business-class service would probably make it much easier to get a second connection installed at your neighbors house. |
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Re: Need cable solution, 1200-2000m between possible AP said by billaustin :
The OP is not asking for assistance to commit a crime. He is trying to find a way to get useable internet in an area not currently served, and he is willing to pay for the service.
I agree. Let's keep the OT posts out of this thread and continue to explore ways to help the OP find a legal way to get a better Internet connection. |
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Does anybody know of any other NLOS wireless antennae? |
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So I'll talk to my neighbor this weekend.
Could I transmit the RF coax signal over the wireless link through the ethernet connection with a media converter? - In case we want comcast tv as well. |
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 tschmidtPremium,MVM
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| said by John01:Could I transmit the RF coax signal over the wireless link through the ethernet connection with a media converter? Not easily, TV programs are transmitted over 6 MHz wide channels and the set-top boxes need to be able to communicate back to the head-end using frequencies below TV channel 2 ~54Mhz.
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nunyaWho is John Galt?Premium,MVM
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You could get an HDHomerun Prime. |
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Re: Need cable solution, 1200-2000m between possible AP Can somebody help me assemble a part list for the wireless ptp option?
I know I need ethernet cables, cable modem, router, and 1-2 nlos ptp bridges.
Map can be found here:
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1 recommendation | Re: Need cable solution, 1200-2000m between possible AP said by John01:So I'll talk to my neighbor this weekend.
Could I transmit the RF coax signal over the wireless link through the ethernet connection with a media converter? - In case we want comcast tv as well.
No. You can set the cable TV converter up on THEIR side and send one channel at a time over. You have to operate the cable converter by remote . you cannot send ALL the cable channels over the wireless link too much bandwidth. |
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 Cho BakaPremium,MVM
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A slingbox could send video over whatever link you set up.
You would also need to set up some type of TV converter at the neighbors as well as the modem though.
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Could I use the 5ghz band with a 25dbi gain? |
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