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mlerner
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reply to TSI Marc

Re: [INTERNET] "Rogers" Ontario Outages Affect Start?

I still hesitate in being assured about 'resilient path' when talking about Rogers knowing they have no such thing on their own core network.



TypeS

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said by mlerner:

I still hesitate in being assured about 'resilient path' when talking about Rogers knowing they have no such thing on their own core network.

Really? I realize what I was taught in school is not always practiced in the working environment (hell the campus itself didn't follow what the programs taught in regards to networking) but shouldn't any enterprise core network be resilient, high availability and redundancy?


twizlar
I dont think so.
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reply to mlerner

I would be more than hesitant. We had several so called redundant connections from them that at various points in the network were carried on the same damn fibre pair.

Their idea of redundant is having multiple vlans over the same cable. Complete joke.



mlerner
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And I've yet to see them do VLANs outside of some business connections.



mlerner
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reply to TypeS

said by TypeS:

said by mlerner:

I still hesitate in being assured about 'resilient path' when talking about Rogers knowing they have no such thing on their own core network.

Really? I realize what I was taught in school is not always practiced in the working environment (hell the campus itself didn't follow what the programs taught in regards to networking) but shouldn't any enterprise core network be resilient, high availability and redundancy?

I think all of us involved in networking at some level know that, however, Rogers has typically gained their large profit margin by cutting corners and gambling the fate of their customers.


sbrook
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said by TypeS:

but shouldn't any enterprise core network be resilient, high availability and redundancy?

Gotta remember that Rogers is first and foremost a CABLE company. Cable companies have a mentality that TV is nowhere near a critical service. That mentality has spread to internet. It improved with digital phone, but not enough to build in redundancy.

Bell's core networks have a better sense of the critical nature of their services. Sadly though, last mile wireline services have lost a lot of their critical nature in recent years.


mlerner
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Not that I disagree but Rogers provides several different business services over that cable and wireless network which should be considered 'critical'.



sbrook
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I'm not saying that they don't provide services that should be considered critical ... but they certainly don't treat any aspect of their residential services as critical.


34764170

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Etobicoke, ON
reply to mlerner

Just because you don't "see" them utilizing VLANs doesn't mean they don't.