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qualitybobby
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reply to cat666

Re: [Raiding] Progression Thread 5.4 edition

Right, Sha of Pride. That one you blow hero/lust at 50% and burn, but he still spawns the adds every 10%, so you still have to stop and dps those down. Make sure everyone has gone down to cleanse their pride before 50%, because at that point you don't have time to go down to do that anymore.

Fallen Protectors isn't bad if you know your kill orders for both the Protectors and then the add(s) they spawn when in the desperate measures phases (66 and 33%) I think we went Rook, Sun, He... but I don't think that matters very much. Just make sure you are cleaving and multidotting, but never push two into the transition at the same time.

Seriously though, the difference in difficulty from the first 4 to Galakras is significant. Not quite Jin Rohk to Horridon levels, but pretty close.



qualitybobby
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reply to DarkLogix

Oh, and for once it was leather night! I walked out with gloves, boots, and a tier chest!



cat666

join:2013-04-26
reply to qualitybobby

said by qualitybobby:

Right, Sha of Pride. That one you blow hero/lust at 50% and burn, but he still spawns the adds every 10%, so you still have to stop and dps those down. Make sure everyone has gone down to cleanse their pride before 50%, because at that point you don't have time to go down to do that anymore.

I only read the tactics once, but I thought you couldn't cleanse your pride at all, with the purpose being to control who gets pride as much as possible.

Once at 30% everyones pride (other than the ones already mind controlled) gets reset to zero automatically and then it's a DPS burn to the end with something like 5 pride being added every 5 seconds to everyone. So 200 seconds until a soft enrage.

It is good news about the Fallen Protectors though, nothing worse than only being able to do one boss on farm each week. In 4.0 we had the first 2 of Bastion of Twilight on farm (stuck on the Council for ages) and also the majority of Blackwing Descent, we'd never get all 5 down per raid, but the first 2 and then 2 of the others would drop.


DarkLogix
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said by cat666:

said by qualitybobby:

Right, Sha of Pride. That one you blow hero/lust at 50% and burn, but he still spawns the adds every 10%, so you still have to stop and dps those down. Make sure everyone has gone down to cleanse their pride before 50%, because at that point you don't have time to go down to do that anymore.

I only read the tactics once, but I thought you couldn't cleanse your pride at all, with the purpose being to control who gets pride as much as possible.

Once at 30% everyones pride (other than the ones already mind controlled) gets reset to zero automatically and then it's a DPS burn to the end with something like 5 pride being added every 5 seconds to everyone. So 200 seconds until a soft enrage.

It is good news about the Fallen Protectors though, nothing worse than only being able to do one boss on farm each week. In 4.0 we had the first 2 of Bastion of Twilight on farm (stuck on the Council for ages) and also the majority of Blackwing Descent, we'd never get all 5 down per raid, but the first 2 and then 2 of the others would drop.

I know I have clacker on battletag
I'm not sure of the number on my battle tag at the moment, but my battletag is darklogix#???? (I think I've posted it before)

I know pride and ego is planning flex at I think 8pm CST friday, might need to check with immer about it though
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said by DarkLogix:

pride and ego is planning flex at I think 8pm CST friday, might need to check with immer about it though

yep, that's the plan.
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said by qualitybobby:

Sha of fear took us 3 wipes

you mean pride?

Pride and ego is all up in this raid, we have a sha and immer is a boss
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cat666

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I'd love you join you guys but I'm EU and Horde so it isn't going to happen.

I'm going to PUG flex in the interim, and as soon as Connected Realms go live, recruit some people for the sole purpose of flex>normals.



Immer
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said by DarkLogix:

Pride and ego is all up in this raid, we have a sha and immer is a boss

lol... good one. earned a solid /chuckle in the office.
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qualitybobby
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reply to cat666

Gahhh... the problem with me is I'm tired from raiding until 1:30 last night, and Norushen and Sha are very similar looking bosses with similar mechanics. I was talking about Nuroshen, not Sha of Pride.

Sha does cleanse you at 30%, and you burn at that point. You still do need to burn adds though



cat666

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Phew my ability to retain information after just one read through is still there then! Got me through school



JB
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Grats dude.

We got Immer/Protectors down. We are taking it slower and going over pretty elaborate strats before we pull so it only takes us a couple of attempts and people don't get down. Hopefully slowly and steadily.

Got my cloak and 3 pieces of loot from my bonus rolls
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qualitybobby
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Nice JB! Grats on the l00tz!

Slow is not a bad thing, this is a LONG tier of bosses. I think we are going to add a 4th night this week (probably a short night though) just to see how far we can get week 1. It was weird, we literally got nothing but plate and leather (and a vanquisher chest... DK, rogue, druid lol) with an agi fist and caster staff. The clothies and hunter were less than impressed.


Arsinic

join:2011-02-17
Ruffs Dale, PA
reply to DarkLogix

Killed first 5 last night.. Late start due to tanks forgetting to start the patching process prior to raid time. First 4 were 2 shots and Galikras or whatevs took us probably 5 pulls total. I feel the begining to SoO is pretty underwhelming. Hopefully the fights pick up as we go, I doubt well get a full clear this first week with only Monday lef tot raid but well see i guess. Hopefully 10 online at start time will bode well.

Anecdotally, I have not kept up with any of the PTr fights of anything in SoO except some fight where you open boxes I saw someone streaming pulls of it few eeks ago and only remmebred because it reminds me of a boss from Tera. Im sure the fights will be brutal on heroic, I m guessing part of cruise controlling through the first 5 was being in near full heoric ToT gear.(not 1 tforged pc tho QQ).

Also for once my monk got raid loot the first month of a patch. Heres to continued luck!



qualitybobby
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Nice Arsenic! Maybe for once this raid will have leather that drops more than once a month...



DarkLogix
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said by JB:

We got Immer See Profile down.

you can't get immer down he's to up beat.
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cat666

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said by DarkLogix:

said by JB:

We got Immer See Profile down.

you can't get immer down he's to up beat.

Lol.

Arsinic

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Agi trinkets toooo!!

Lets both hope..



qualitybobby
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Tell me about it. I'm still running with the stupid Shadow Pan trinket, and the only trinket I saw the entire time in ToT was a bad juju.



JB
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Any help on the 3rd boss? I figured our OT would suck at the spirit realm so I went in first, no problem. When I came out people were already dying from the ads, any tips?



qualitybobby
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Are you sending in two dps at a time or one dps and either a healer or a tank? If you send in two dps, the adds will get overwhelming because every add that they kill spawns topside. Otherwise, my guess would be that your dps are not stopping on the boss and focusing exclusively on adds.

The rule has to be, when an add pops, it dies asap. No exceptions. They can and should be stunned and interrupted, because they will buff the boss. If your tank taunts them it will help keep them from smacking on the dps, but if someone gets agro they should be able to stun and move. They won't one shot anyone.



JB
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25Man ... >=\



qualitybobby
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Ahhh... we did 10 man but the concepts are the same. Probably shouldn't send down more than 2 at a time then, and treat the adds the same. They pop, they die.



qualitybobby
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reply to DarkLogix

9/14 through last night. Got through Malkorok and did a few pulls on Spoils. Nazgrim was the toughest of the 4 we did. Iron Juggernaut was an easy one shot, Dark Shaman took 3 pulls (basically, don't stand in stuff and don't got near the elemental wall = kill). Malkorok was a 3 shot, once I threw down raid markers marking where the AoE was going to be we killed it.

Nazgrim is all about add management (seems to be the theme of the raid). Shaman need to be burned down, healing totems need to die immediately, as do war banners. Towards the end (20%) you get a ton of adds. You need to time the phases right to get it done. We were getting him to his last defensive stance at about 27%. Manage that phase with adds. When he goes to battle stance, kill adds ASAP (you might want to leave the melee adds, the whirlwind isn't that bad (interrupt it)). Blow hero and burn burn burn. He'll go into berserker stance soon after, and you will get a ton of adds (ours came out at about 10%).

Keep burning, try to CC the Shaman that spawn so they don't chain heal/drop healing totem. All adds can be ccd. Blind/sheep, gouge, traps, etc. We killed it on about the 9th or 10th pull with 3 sub 5% wipes and on our kill The shaman dropped a totem at 1% but he dies before the heal went off.

Enjoy all the trash in Org... we got about 5 epics (4 cloaks.... really?), it's filled with it.



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Feels like the raid is going to be Ellie Shaman heaven...


Mattphill

join:2012-12-21
Somerset, KY
reply to DarkLogix

Our first night in SoO went well. We're still transitioning from a 10m to a 25m so we had to PUG a few, this hurt us.

We downed Immer after a few wipes but didn't down the second boss. If we stayed a 10m then I'm sure we would've but it's not possible to have good progression with more than 2 PUGS imho. Anyway, 1/14 ~Lightbringer server



cat666

join:2013-04-26

said by Mattphill:

Our first night in SoO went well. We're still transitioning from a 10m to a 25m so we had to PUG a few, this hurt us.

I did 25m raiding in Cata and honestly it is more trouble than it's worth. You'll never get 25 people on at the same time, 3-4 will always be late and you'll end up pugging, only for one of them to turn up 45mins late and get all moody as there slot is taken.

It got so bad that half the guild made there own guild so they could do 10m as the guild leader was adament he wanted 25m and they got sick of constantly waitting around before raids and having loot go to puggers.

Your better off running 2 x 10m with a flex raid with the 22 of you.

Arsinic

join:2011-02-17
Ruffs Dale, PA
reply to JB

Sounds like people may be failing a tbeams, your OT isnt picking the big ads up, or You phased people arent tellnig you OT that the big ads are coming out. They hurt on non tanks, so if your OT is slow a healer or 2 is probably splat. Make sure you have your peopel ready to absorb the puddles to cap off their corruption and have them going into the orbs as soon as they can.

We held off damage around 60%ish to make sure as many people as possible could cleanse their corruption, that way the 50%-0 burn would be easier. You probably cant delay it all day thoguh as you may hit berserk, but just make sure the big ad is prioritized in both spirit realm and as soon as it comes out. Remeber >50% the big ad dyin g removes boss hp so cleave, target swapping is a dps boost, so get all your meter padders on board and GG.



qualitybobby
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Oh, and the loot party continues! I picked up tier gloves on a coin roll(yay 2 piece!) and non-tier legs, so 9 bosses down and 5 pieces of gear!

It was pretty funny after the plate/leather party the first night that Iron Juggernaut dropped 2 plate pieces.



JB
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Yep, we got it all figured out now. ~7% wipe, need to optimize the raid dps a bit more. ps: that 7 minute enrage sucks in 25s.



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said by JB:

Yep, we got it all figured out now. ~7% wipe, need to optimize the raid dps a bit more. ps: that 7 minute enrage sucks in 25s.

Nurushen and Sha of Pride down. Sha is pretty easy if you can stack/spread. So 4/14N in our first week, not bad, can't complain.