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kudos:1 | Stanley Cup riot hero charged for not filling out census »www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c···?cmp=rss
What an idiotic law. 
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| So typical the crown pursues law abiding citizens more aggressively then crooks. Remember the Chinese store owner. The same guy was ripping him off all the time the cops do nothing so he catches the guy himself and gets thrown in jail. Charged with making the cops look like a bunch of incompetent asses.
An unarmed man no body armour or back-up facing a bunch of violent drunks. The police should try and recruit him they appear to be employing a bunch of cowards lately. |
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The government can make you fill out the census but in no way shape or form does any of the information have to be factual or correct.
Start with a few beers, insert "Jedi" as religion and let the spirit carry you from there 
Sometimes standing up for your principles is just more trouble than it's worth in this day and age...  |
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said by Mustafa:So typical the crown pursues law abiding citizens more aggressively then crooks.
Failing to fill out the census is currently against the law. I guess "law abiding" means only following the laws you agree with? |
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| said by bt:said by Mustafa:So typical the crown pursues law abiding citizens more aggressively then crooks.
Failing to fill out the census is currently against the law. I guess "law abiding" means only following the laws you agree with? There are plenty of archaic laws on the book that aren’t enforced. The police and crown practice selective enforcement so why should I be any different? The Chinese store owner is one example. I know what happened there the cops viewed it as to trivial for their time but when the guy takes matters into his own hands to protect his livelihood they spare no expense in prosecuting him to the full extent of the law.
My personal opinion to waste time and resources prosecuting an otherwise law abiding citizen for something so trivial is ludricous.
Hope that clears things up for you. |
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I thought Harper changed the law so that these kind of "citizens' arrests were fine now. |
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| said by elwoodblues:I thought Harper changed the law so that these kind of "citizens' arrests were fine now.
Thats what I heard. The storeowner was the reason for the change if I remember correctly. Harper was pissed when he heard of the incident. |
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kudos:1 | If you spend anytime in Canpol you know my feelings on the guy, but yeah if I was PM and had the power to change the law I'd be pissed too. |
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said by Mustafa:said by bt:said by Mustafa:So typical the crown pursues law abiding citizens more aggressively then crooks.
Failing to fill out the census is currently against the law. I guess "law abiding" means only following the laws you agree with? There are plenty of archaic laws on the book that aren’t enforced. But this one IS enforced. Every census we hear about it. Hell, they were even very specific in saying that the short form would still be enforced when they changed the law for the long form. |
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| said by bt:But this one IS enforced. Every census we hear about it. Hell, they were even very specific in saying that the short form would still be enforced when they changed the law for the long form.
Regardless my point still stands. Wasting time and resources on something trivial essentially a victimless crime is just that a waste. There are plenty of other examples of selective enforcement on modern everyday laws. When you get a warning instead of a ticket or a charge is selective enforcement. When a cop decides investigating something just isn’t worth his time, people who refused to register their guns etc... etc…. I could write a small book.
The short form census was in the media so it’s the flavour of the month; senior bureaucrats are pushing for 100% enforcement. They have to justify their existence somehow. My point is it’s a waste.
Too bad they dont go after thiefs and other low lifes with as much time and energy. |
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The way the story is being presented is that the moral of the story is to do no good deeds lest you have skeletons in the closet.
Good to know, Canada.
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Umm, filling out the census is the law, and it's a reasonable one. Just because the guy did some good stuff doesn't give him carte blanche to break the law...
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said by Mustafa:So typical the crown pursues law abiding citizens more aggressively then crooks. Remember the Chinese store owner. The same guy was ripping him off all the time the cops do nothing so he catches the guy himself and gets thrown in jail. Charged with making the cops look like a bunch of incompetent asses.
An unarmed man no body armour or back-up facing a bunch of violent drunks. The police should try and recruit him they appear to be employing a bunch of cowards lately.
No good deed goes unpunished.
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said by Guspaz:Umm, filling out the census is the law, and it's a reasonable one. Just because the guy did some good stuff doesn't give him carte blanche to break the law...
That"s your opinion it"s not mine and I"m sure a lot of other peoples opinion. |
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| said by Mustafa:That"s your opinion it"s not mine and I"m sure a lot of other peoples opinion. The only reason you and a few others may not share his opinion is because you are ignorant of the importance of census data in determining future funding and planning in your community and the country as a whole.
There's a reason it's illegal to ignore the census - the data is important, and is anything but trivial. |
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| said by Gone:The only reason you and a few others may not share his opinion is because you are ignorant of the importance of census data in determining future funding and planning in your community and the country as a whole.
There's a reason it's illegal to ignore the census - the data is important, and is anything but trivial.
You sound like some NDP backbencher. What do they need to know that isn’t on my tax return? I don’t trust the government with anymore information then I have too. These are the same halfwits running around with flash drives of your SIN and other supposed confidential information. My mother got a nice letter to watch for signs of potential identity thefts from the last FU. Anything that isn’t on my tax return I consider private and none of the states business. |
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kudos:4 | Ohhh! NDP backbencher!
Well. You sure told us!
Let me guess - you're a sovereign citizen?
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| Your comment does sound conspicuously like the lines coming from the NDP about how the world as we know it will end if the long form cenus dies or becomes voluntary. |
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said by lugnut :The government can make you fill out the census but in no way shape or form does any of the information have to be factual or correct.
Start with a few beers, insert "Jedi" as religion and let the spirit carry you from there
Sometimes standing up for your principles is just more trouble than it's worth in this day and age...
When i did the form i purposely wrote in handwriting that wasn't legible I filled out everything, but I couldn't even understand it my own writing
3-4 weeks after I mailed it I got a call from the gov. Something along the lines of it wasn't understandable. I said I had a stroke and can no longer write well (I think I stated that phrase over 7 minutes, I pretended I couldn't talk either). They ended the call right there.
So, while i agree with not filing it out, nor is it their business what religion people are, or what language we speak in Quebec, there are ways around things that this guy could have done to play the system. So he's just dumb. It's the law to fill it out. But as far as I know there is no law about it having to be readable by humans. |
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said by Mustafa:Your comment does sound conspicuously like the lines coming from the NDP about how the world as we know it will end if the long form cenus dies or becomes voluntary. And your comments sound conspicuously like the lines coming from one of those "sovereign citizens" who will show up at my wife's work with a lawyer and claim that the government has no right to tax them.
And the NDP was right - ending the long form census was an entirely bad idea for all the reasons I listed when I said you were ignorant in your understanding of the need for a census. |
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Re: Stanley Cup riot hero charged for not filling out census Right...the law is the law is the law is the law. We have "rights" you know, as they are "guaranteed" in our charter and constitution.
We'll not process child molesters, rapists, etc, because it takes too long to get it to trial.
But we will jail the first asshole that doesn't fill is census.
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| 89 year old Toronto woman ready to go to jail over census fight
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do you send an activist who is 89 years old to jail?... but seriously why would this be contracted to a USA firm? |
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1 edit | said by jaberi:do you send an activist who is 89 years old to jail?... Tell me more about your proposal to exempt people from the law over a certain age. Hans Lipschis would like a word with you.
As for the lady, her protestations are irrelevant, not to mention a bit silly. Should we have boycotted Saturday Night Live in the past because of their corporate connections to the manufacture of nuclear weapons, or avoid using the computer sitting behind her because the basic standards it uses were developed by a company whose equipment managed the holocaust (yeah, I realize that's extreme, those were the only two examples that came to mind)? Lockheed Martin also built part of the space shuttle and a laundry list of NASA scientific missions.
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London, ON | said by Guspaz:As for the lady, her protestations are irrelevant, not to mention a bit silly. Should we have boycotted Saturday Night Live in the past because of their corporate connections to the manufacture of nuclear weapons, or avoid using the computer sitting behind her because the basic standards it uses were developed by a company whose equipment managed the holocaust (yeah, I realize that's extreme, those were the only two examples that came to mind)? Lockheed Martin also built part of the space shuttle and a laundry list of NASA scientific missions.
i'm not sure what you meant by your comment about the holocaust, which is then followed up by Lockheed Martin.
are you referring to Operation Paperclip?
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Tell me more about your proposal to exempt people from the law over a certain age. Hans Lipschis would like a word with you.
exemptions would be all according to the crime committed...for example pamela wallin should not be exempt from serving jail time for robbing the taxpayers....however, tobias crime is not worth the taxpayers money feeding and risking her health at her age behind bars. |
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said by jaberi:do you send an activist who is 89 years old to jail?... but seriously why would this be contracted to a USA firm?
....Lockheed was the only company to bid on the work....
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said by Guspaz:As for the lady, her protestations are irrelevant, not to mention a bit silly. Should we have boycotted Saturday Night Live in the past because of their corporate connections to the manufacture of nuclear weapons....
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All phone numbers in Canada and the USA are distributed and coordinated by the North American Numbering Plan (NANP) administrator.
Since 1997 that has been Neustar which was part of Lockheed. It was spun off from Lockheed in 1999.
So did she avoid using the phone between 1997 and 1999 ??
Actually I do appreciate her protest but these things are just not so clear cut, in the end. |
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