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moldypickle
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Re: How much is Netflix throttling your ISPs connection graph

You suggest then that Netflix is throttling their entire user base in an attempt to sell more accounts..... I guess your logic makes more sense..... O.o

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I'm not suggesting they do it to sell more accounts... That wouldn't even make sense.

Netflix is marketing a bandwidth chart that has no publicly known baseline or target. What is good? What is the highest an ISP can get? What is really behind the numbers? The number certainly don't reach the speed of the tiers the ISPs are selling or what customers are report they are able to at a range of other sites.

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As stated elsewhere, 3mbit is the highest tier reachable on an ISP without SuperHD (OpenConnect). I personally would like to see these charts broken out by region AND time.

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What happens if customer's turn down the bit rate on purpose... is that counted in Netflix numbers?

Although doesn't 2.3 GB per hour equal about 5.2 mb per second? Is that for SuperHD?
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said by DocDrew:

What happens if customer's turn down the bit rate on purpose... is that counted in Netflix numbers?

Doesn't matter. Once a population becomes statistical significance, then usage patterns between populations should be nearly identical.

If one customer on one ISP turns down their bitrate, then another customer on another ISP will do the same.

The only thing left is the network, which one is better.

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said by Bengie25:

The only thing left is the network, which one is better.

Who's network? Netflix, transit provider, ISP, or end user?
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said by DocDrew:

Who's network? Netflix, transit provider, ISP, or end user?

The entire network as a whole.

Someone mentioned that Netflix only counts HD streams, so someone turning down the bitrate won't affect the numbers. I am not sure if that is true or not.

Either way, the ratio should be the same for any large population. Why would someone turn down their bitrate except because of streaming issues?

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said by Bengie25:

Either way, the ratio should be the same for any large population. Why would someone turn down their bitrate except because of streaming issues?

They would turn down the bit rate because they're worried about hitting monthly bandwidth limits. They could have 20mbps download rates but a 100 GB monthly limit.
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said by DocDrew:

They would turn down the bit rate because they're worried about hitting monthly bandwidth limits. They could have 20mbps download rates but a 100 GB monthly limit.

Simple fix. Net neutrality violation. Force ISPs to apply their TV and phone services to the same data caps. It's all data, so treat it the same.
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I agree with you on something!