That's strange, AFAIK in most US jurisdictions if you are an out-of-state driver the cop takes you down to the police station where you must post a bail that is exactly equivalent to the traffic fine. So they are getting the money up-front. AFAIK the only time this is not done is when a reciprocity agreement exists between the states/provinces involved.
You would think so, when I got home I checked if Ontario had any agreements with AZ, the answer was no, so I tossed the letters I got. -- No, I didn't. Honest... I ran out of gas. I... I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake.......
You can drive in Québec at anytime up to 20km/h over the limit and not being afraid of getting a ticket. At +20, you can plea bargain it to +10km/h hiring a lawyer and the +10km/h fine is about 50$ and no points which is less than the administration has to pay to carry on your case. The unoficial word to police is to pull over from +21 over the limit and up.
An interesting note, in both instances the cop approached my car with his hand on his weapon. I don't think I've seen a Canadian cop do that.
Couple of months ago got pulled over for doing 69 on interstate 71 in Kentucky. He had his weapon drawn as he approached. scariest traffic stop I've ever had. Thank god for CAA, he accepted the card as bond in lieu of taking me to jail (other option was roadside cash).
Re: Why is the speed limit in Canada on highways only 100 kph?
Busted in Ohio for doing 67 in a 65 (I70). Got a warning. I always stuck to the limit in New York. Since I only travel to Buffalo, I have no experience on the interstates in NY, other than the local highways which I know to stick to there speed limit. But on the I75 side, you're better off sticking to what they want.
I still stand by my other comment. People tend to do about 20% over the limit. Just driving on the 401 through construction and none-contruction zones prove that. (though when it's 80 people do about 110)
As for the 401, between west Kitchener and Windsor there is no reason why it shouldn't be 130 or 140 in most spots. Lots of nothing and nothing to see...very few curves, and none of them are sharp when they exist. It's six lanes (3 each way) between Kitchener and London and little traffic. -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. - Albert Einstein
Busted in Ohio for doing 67 in a 65 (I70). Got a warning. I always stuck to the limit in New York. Since I only travel to Buffalo, I have no experience on the interstates in NY, other than the local highways which I know to stick to there speed limit. But on the I75 side, you're better off sticking to what they want.
Well, Ohio is Ohio and you had Ontario plates. 67 in a 65 is just barely under 3% which is considered the margin of error and wouldn't be looked upon very highly in court if it ever did get that far. New York isn't nearly that big of a deal outside of the parkways. Most people on the Thruway are doing around 75mph and once you get onto I-81 you can push it up to 80. The only time I've ever seen people busted is when they were clearly pushing 90mph.
I still stand by my other comment. People tend to do about 20% over the limit. Just driving on the 401 through construction and none-construction zones prove that. (though when it's 80 people do about 110)
Well, standing behind this comment is the same as someone who stands behind their comment that the Earth is flat. There have been numerous studies on this issue that have shown no increase in operating speeds when speed limits are raised. The empirical evidence to suggest that people would drive faster if the speed limit is raised is simply not there.
As for the 401, between west Kitchener and Windsor there is no reason why it shouldn't be 130 or 140 in most spots. Lots of nothing and nothing to see...very few curves, and none of them are sharp when they exist. It's six lanes (3 each way) between Kitchener and London and little traffic.
The parts closer to Windsor have design deficiencies that result in a lower operating speed. Those are due to be corrected. The 401 in Eastern Ontario is one hell of a fast ride, though. Whereas on I-81 everyone is moving 75-80mph, the moment you cross into Ontario and get back on the 401 you're the slowest of the bunch if you're going 130. It is quite the eye-opening experience. I now go up to Ogdensburg and avoid the 401 entirely.
quote:Then there's always the hwy 2 stretch from Calgary to Red Deer with packs of cars traveling at 130-140 like they're drafting at Talladega.
I don't speed often and I quite enjoy driving at 100/110 [at least you see the scenery.]
We went to Tenerife years ago and as soon as we landed rented a car........well damn if the speed limit wasn't 135 and cars and trucks were tailgating me doing 140 or more and then giving me the finger when they passed. lol
I needed a few drinks when we got to our hotel. -- Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupidity.
You can drive in Québec at anytime up to 20km/h over the limit and not being afraid of getting a ticket. At +20, you can plea bargain it to +10km/h hiring a lawyer and the +10km/h fine is about 50$ and no points which is less than the administration has to pay to carry on your case. The unoficial word to police is to pull over from +21 over the limit and up.
The two places I've had the best of luck are pretty much anywhere in Québec as you suggest, the Ontario toll highway 407, Huntsville, AL and plenty of places overseas.
The worst luck I have is anywhere in Niagara where I do the majority of my driving and upstate NY where I've troopers will pull over caravans of speeding cars if they're in the mood, regardless of where you're from.
A good buddy of mine is an NYSP officer and he'll ticket people for 3 mph over the limit any day of the week. I also have an NRP friend that has ticketed people for going 1 Km/h over the limit and every court challenge he's there and they've always stuck.
Re: Why is the speed limit in Canada on highways only 100 kph?
Well, it is true that east of Oshawa you can go pretty fast without any cop doing anything. I got to Montreal in 5 hours from here, that includes the 1 hour to get to Scarborough. (no real speeding)
Who said the earth isn't flat? -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. - Albert Einstein
The worst luck I have is anywhere in Niagara where I do the majority of my driving and upstate NY where I've troopers will pull over caravans of speeding cars if they're in the mood, regardless of where you're from.
Many years ago (shortly after the Burlington extension was added on to the 407) they used to do the bulk pull overs. I know I was clocked many times doing 115-ish, but that was obviously below the threshold.
Oddest thing I ever say. One guy with a speed gun standing under an overpass, waving people to the side of the road. At least 3 or 4 squad cars to the side just past him writing tickets (I'm assuming at least one to give chase if someone decided to run). First time I saw it I thought some idiot was standing in the middle of the road.
I've seen the OPP do that on the QEW in Niagara on long weekends, usually from the Glendale Avenue overpass with the cruisers waiting for you at the Welcome Centre.
Oddest thing I ever say. One guy with a speed gun standing under an overpass, waving people to the side of the road.
That last one I saw on an upstate NY highway was ballsy.
The merge ramp was higher up on a hill coming down to the interstate and the officer was sitting up there, presumably with his gun, then he zoomed down at five cars, pulled in front of the first between both the passing and regular lane, stuck his hand out the window pointing with his thumb to pull over, slowed down in front of the car behind him and did the same, and so on and so on until all cars were over on the side of the road.
I thought I was going to get caught up in on it since I was also speeding a wee bit but I didn't get the thumb. I guess five was enough.
Re: Why is the speed limit in Canada on highways only 100 kph?
LOL @ graphic, don't you know there is shortage of skilled labour in Alberta?
but yes 32 miles open so far and it is a drag strip, now can you imagine when they complete the remaining 200 miles?....time for you to get a jet when that is done.
Re: Why is the speed limit in Canada on highways only 100 kph?
Yup, highway back here are safe if you are under 118-120.
But when I go down to my sister-in-law in Jersey, I feel like I'm not moving at 120 on the New York Thruway (between Albany and the Garden State Parkway). And once on the NJ garden State Parkway, 140kmh seems to be the norm! lol I dont really do it cuz I don't want to risk getting a ticket, but then again I rarely see a car pulled over.
Seventh Ave Overpass, Niagara Bound Welland Entrance, Niagara Bound Lake Street Entrance/Exit, Toronto Bound/Niagara Bound Netherby Overpass, US bound ... seen this a few times on the Friday of a long weekend. -- AFK: Attack, fight, kill!! The healer is telling you to go pull mobs. WTF: Way to fight! The healer is applauding your tactical genius
I'm surprised no one mentioned the going rate on the 407 or i may have missed it. I can do an easy 140 on the 407 and still get passed as if i were stopped. Don't get me started on OPP monitoring a private highway though.
Going average all around this city and cops all know it is 120kph. Usually safe if you throttle around or just under, a little over and OPP will likely stop you if they are running a trap.
In Toronto quite a few people drive on the highway as if they're the only ones on the road. Not sure if increasing speed limit here would be a wise idea.
wise idea? You kidding? Ontario is one of the slowest places in the world as far as i know and is the slowest in all of Canada.
wise idea? You kidding? Ontario is one of the slowest places in the world as far as i know and is the slowest in all of Canada.
Posted the slowest, but has some of the highest operating speeds in North America. Reason being is that our highways are built to a very high standard which encourages people to feel safer when driving faster.
A number written on a sign does absolutely nothing to change driving behaviour. This is why operating speeds don't change even when a speed limit is increased (or decreased). If you want people to slow down you need to design the road to cause people to slow down.
wise idea? You kidding? Ontario is one of the slowest places in the world as far as i know and is the slowest in all of Canada.
Posted the slowest, but has some of the highest operating speeds in North America. Reason being is that our highways are built to a very high standard which encourages people to feel safer when driving faster.
A number written on a sign does absolutely nothing to change driving behaviour. This is why operating speeds don't change even when a speed limit is increased (or decreased). If you want people to slow down you need to design the road to cause people to slow down.
Oh i don't want people to slow down (well the normal drivers)... Drove to NS and though the posted limit was 110, majority of people respected it out there, went a little above, that 's about it.
I know numbers on a sign are arbitrary and people around here drive at absolutely asinine speeds. My issue with the "posted" limits is exactly what is mentioned in one of those links i posted. Set the limit to 130 for example, and go after EVERY driver who is trying to do 15-20 over that. Right now, they could just go after everyone as ab out 90% of people in Ontario rarely do exactly 100kph
Oh i don't want people to slow down (well the normal drivers)... Drove to NS and though the posted limit was 110, majority of people respected it out there, went a little above, that 's about it.
The speed at which people drive is a direct product of the standard of the highway they are driving on. Many of the 100-series highways out in Nova Scotia aren't designed nearly as well as 400-series highways in Ontario, so it would be expected for people to drive slower.
Drive out on one of the rural interstates in Texas or Nevada that are flat and wide with shoulders double the width of a driving lane and 130KM/h will get you passed constantly, as they're built even better than our 400s.
it's not the speed at which you do something, it's how quickly you stop that is the problem.
there's a couple roads i drive on that are about where they should be for speed, on my usual routes one of them is about 10km/h lower then it should be and you will likely never hit that speed during the traffic runs, another could be bumped up 20km/h, but have enforcement for dangerous driving increased(not speeding, actual stupid things)
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