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anonguy

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Resistor vs. voltage reg

If I have something that outputs 5v at 50ma, and I want to run something that needs 3v (normally it uses qty.2 AA batteries) what resistor is appropriate, or am I better off using a voltage regulator?

I only have 50ma to work with, as this is the output of a POE module


TheMG
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What sort of device are we talking about here? How much current does it require?

A simple resistor will not work unless the load current is absolutely constant. For any kind of electronic device, it's going to be fluctuating.



anonguy

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It's one of those LED road flares, it took 2 AAA batteries. Every time you press the on button it does a different blink pattern, unfortunately some of the modes are "blinking all LEDs together" or "half the LEDs on then the other half" ...so I see what you mean about current requirements varying.


iknow_t

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2 recommendations

reply to anonguy

you can put 2 1N4007 diodes in series for a quick fix. each one will drop about .7 volts.



anonguy

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reply to anonguy

looks very much like this unit: »www.evin.ca/tutorials but mine operated off 2 AAA batteries.
would I kill it if I just operated it on 5V direct? or is 50ma not enough you're thinking?



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would I kill it if I just operated it on 5V direct?

If it uses a resistor, or no resistor because the LED's Vf is probably about 3V and the batteries' internal resistance is used to limit current, then operating it from 5V runs a high risk of destroying it very quickly. If it contains a switching regulator, then it can probably run from 5V just fine.
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reply to anonguy

Many of these devices use high current. See »32 LED 18V 240 lumen flashlight project.. Since they are blinking it will be difficult to tell. You could put a 39 ohm resistor in series with the supply and try it. Maybe you'll get lucky.


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reply to anonguy

A 3 pin LDO regulator is almost as easy as a 2-pin resistor and you eliminate the risk.

Here is a $0.33 TI part which will provide your LED toy fixed 3V output (matching 2x AAA) from 5V to 24V PoE voltage. Current is limited to 100mA max.

»www.newark.com/texas-instruments···/41K6543



anonguy

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Thank you all for the insight, I think I'm going to play it safe and use the LP2950CZ-3.0



SparkChaser
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Thank you all for the insight, I think I'm going to play it safe and use the LP2950CZ-3.0

Keep in mind that may not work because you don't know what the required current is.
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said by SparkChaser:

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Thank you all for the insight, I think I'm going to play it safe and use the LP2950CZ-3.0

Keep in mind that may not work because you don't know what the required current is.

His PoE setup is limited to 50mA but the LED probably draws even less than that.

If you are worried about 100mA limit of the LDO being too high ... many AAA cells can provide much more current and the LED toy designer probably knows that people can put in fresh, good quality cells.


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reply to anonguy

I was simply referring to the supply @50mA. The device, he said was similar, had 16 LEDS all of which could flash simultaneously. Since it is flashing they may keep the average current lower than 50. Won't know until it's measured or tried.