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dirtyjeffer
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Re: [Hockey]Official Toronto Maple Leafs 2013-2014 Hockey Thread

said by HiVolt:

They had the Leafs assistant GM on the radio show here today, and he said they are VERY close but not over the cap... so i dunno what to make of it... maybe some loophole they're exploiting?

currently, they are $216,667 over the cap, but as Kardinal said, some of that will be cleared once players are sent down.

you can see all teams numbers here if you want cap info on teams:

»www.capgeek.com/
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said by dirtyjeffer:

currently, they are $216,667 over the cap, but as Kardinal said, some of that will be cleared once players are sent down.

That's after sending Holzer down. So they've got one more - presumably a forward - to send down to slip under the cap.


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yes, it is likely another player or two will slip down once the official line up is finalized, which will likely drop it below...however, they are basically maxed out...not much in the way of room.


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If they send 2 down, they've got NO healthy scratches. As it is, unless they send someone down then call up someone cheaper, they'll only have a spare healthy body for forward or defense.



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i'm not sure how Bolland is doing, but if he is injured, that frees up some space...from the looks of it, they can only send one forward down, so Trevor Smith will likely be sent to the AHL (assuming he doesn't need to clear waivers).


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Yeah, if they can put Bolland on LTIR they're in the clear.

I think Smith would have to clear waivers.



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Exactly -- cap space is only 'cleared' if LTIR is used, so an 'injured' player who is out for a few games still counts. Bolland, McLaren, Orr....anyone else? Need to have one player up to fill in for Clarkson for the 1st ten games, and if anyone else is out there needs to be a body for their spot too.
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Flames acquire centre Joe Colborne

»flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=684668

The Calgary Flames announced today that they have acquired centre Joe Colborne from the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Calgary’s fourth round pick in the 2014 NHL Entry Draft.



I have a feeling this will come back to haunt the Leafs.
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Waiver day.

Liles on waivers; Reilly makes team

»www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/map···.1872524
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Damn, why did they give up on Colorne already? i guess they needed to squeeze under that cap heh... As for Liles, not surprised... he didnt really fit here.
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Colborne may be good some day, but i have no problem with the trade...for one, he's in other conference now...secondly, Colborne has been given every opportunity this pre-season to "wow" management...he hasn't, once...he hasn't been bad, but he hasn't stood out...with a team on the brink of the cap, and in need of making room, it was inevitable someone was going to have to be moved.



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Leafs supposedly close to reaching an 8-year extension with Phil Kessel.

Kessel said that he would not negotiate during the year, so they're trying to get it done before the season starts.

I think if the Leafs are going to give max term extension to a player, Phil Kessel would be one of them... He's really come together the last couple seasons, becoming much more complete player.
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said by HiVolt:

Leafs supposedly close to reaching an 8-year extension with Phil Kessel.

8 years, about $8m per, reported to have a limited no trade clause.


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If this gets done now it will be one less distraction at the trade deadline and in the offseason.
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Nonis (according to Dredger) said it is not done yet

(BTW just heard on TSN1200 in Ottawa that Dredger is Nonis' cousin)


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As of now, assuming it is done, it makes Kessel currently the 8th highest cap hit next season. And looking at the UFA list for next season, I don't see too many who could bump him down. Maybe Lundqvist. Possibly Vanek if he hits the open market. Maybe Phaneuf, but I don't see the Leafs giving him more than Kessel.



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There's no way Phaneuf gets max term/max money from anyone.
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said by HiVolt:

There's no way Phaneuf gets max term/max money from anyone.

agreed

However I am surprised Kessel is getting this term and $ .. I am not sold on him.. he is a good player, but IMO does not make the players around him better (like a Sundin did or Crosby does)
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said by HiVolt:

There's no way Phaneuf gets max term/max money from anyone.

Hah, I hope for your sake you aren't going to regret those words!


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Hehe. He'd have to score 100 points and be like +50 to get that. lol...

Which we know isnt happening.
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the price and term is steep, but Kessel is one of the top scorers in the game...as well, his playmaking/defensive side has improved over the last couple of years...sure, we'd like to get him for less ($6.5 - $7 million for 5 years might be the deal of the century), but the reality is, he is a UFA at the end of this season, and a big money deal like this would remove the distraction from Phil and just let him score goals.
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said by BigSensFan:

said by HiVolt:

There's no way Phaneuf gets max term/max money from anyone.

agreed

However I am surprised Kessel is getting this term and $ .. I am not sold on him.. he is a good player, but IMO does not make the players around him better (like a Sundin did or Crosby does)

Would Tyler Bozak even be in the NHL if he didn't pick up Kessels' scraps?

Sundin and Crosby are other world players. Kessel is a sniper. Look who has the 4th most goals in the last 3 years.

»www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/···ats.html

Kessel is coming into his prime right now. He should be paid accordingly. Far too often, sports overpays players based on past performance instead of current and expected performance.

I have no problem with this deal.
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I was just about to post something similar to shaner See Profile. Kessel is 4th in points in the last 2 seasons. Lock that down. I think he's only going to get better especially as the Leafs fill in some of the other missing pieces of the puzzle.

It's been a long time since Sundin left and while Kessel has a long way to go to be mentioned in the same category, it's nice to finally have someone on the team with the potential. Signing him long term makes sense.
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It's official. 8 years $64M extension.

»www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/leaf···tension/
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Signing the deal
Only in the NHL would a $64 million dollar player contract be signed on top of a utility shelf in the arena janitors' closet. The only way this picture would have been better if Kessel was signing the contract on Nonis' back.

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Limited NMC as follows, as per Elliotte Friedman:

-Cannot be loaned or waived
-List of 8 teams he can be traded to, which he can change annually

I don't see either of those being a big problem, and really don't see the first one coming in to play at all.



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Haha. I guess he didn't want to be loaned to the KHL.
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Interesting, Dave Nonis said that he wasn't gonna talk to Phil about it either until Phil made it known that he wanted to stay in Toronto.

Honestly I thought he would not want to resign here, because of the intense scrutiny of the trade for those high draft picks, but it looks like he matured (like many predicted) and he's enjoyed the competitive nature and the rabid fans, and knows he has to put up with media scrutiny as well.

Big kudos to Dave Nonis for getting this done now.
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Y'know I was one of those who thought there was no way in hell that he would re-sign, esp. not for max term (money is nice but Toronto, both media and fans, can turn on players faster than a baby can fart)

My question is though does this mean Phaneuf is done in TO? I can't see him getting the same $ and / or term as Kessel (he ain't worth that) but I can also see him with a long term "ego injury" esp. since he is the captain of the team and may decide that he wants to go elsewhere.

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I was thinking the same thing about Phaneuf:

I don't think his play is worth $8M but he might ask for it and there will be a team somewhere that would be willing to pay him that much. It will come down to TML figuring out how much they think he is worth and being willing to lose the asset for nothing if he doesn't agree to what they are offering. It might come down to yearly salary vs term, like so many contracts do these days.
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