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3-2 Leafs leading the Habs after two periods. JVR, Phaneuf(!) and Bozak with the goals.
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4-2, Raymond with the goal...
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Scary moment earlier in the game, Orr & Parros drop the gloves and they get tangled up and Parros faceplants on the ice... He was taken on a stretcher to hospital.

4-3 Leafs hold off the Habs. Woo!
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Poor George Parros. That looks horrible.

2 things...

1. Is it my imagination or is players smacking their heads on the ice at the end of a fight a relatively new phenomenon? For the life of me, I cannot remember players being injured like this back in the old days, even in the 80's.

2. Why does the NHL still allow fighting?
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Yeah I hope he's ok... What a coincidence though, it was Parros a few years ago who took out Orr in a fight much in the same fashion, not a punch but a tussle and Orr faceplanted and had a concussion that ended his year...

There was a fair bit of goonery in this game...
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I think why fighting is still in the game is simple: imagine what the weasels would do if they knew nobody could try and bash their head in. I'm not a fan of the staged knuckle-dragger vs knuckle-dragger fight (see Parros vs Orr round 1 this evening), but fighting between two players legitimately pissed off with each other over something is something that should stay. I would prefer the instigator rule be rescinded as it penalizes someone going after a weasel (especially one who turtles), but that's just me.

As for what NHLPA members think about fighting, a 15 second search found this article that answers that question. Unequivocally.
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How do other sports handle weasely behaviour? They fine and suspend. Harshly. What's wrong with that approach?

my 2 cents...players got concussed "back in the day"...it just wasn't treated the same way...you went to the locker room, puked, went back out...and for the mild concussions, players would shrug it off, knowing an injury meant they wouldn't play (were they not paid if they couldn't play?)...times have changed, as have medical procedures.

yea, it's an unfortunate incident...it's too bad too, because i really like Parros and Montreal picking him up was a really good move...hopefully it isn't anything too serious and he is ok to return in a month or two.

Wrong with it? Nothing. I'd be all for it, but it would mean the chances of a "superstar" getting suspended for doing something wrong, even if it wasn't their normal way of playing, would be much higher because the precedent would be set by a weasel getting 5 games for hitting from behind or slew footing. Crosby / Ovechkin / Stamkos / Kessel get that for a 1-off incident and ownership and fandom go nuts, so they'd never get it. If they don't, then the weasels can't get it either.

Perfect system? No, but when owners are their own worst enemies when it comes to salaries and need to keep getting "get out of jail free" cards with each new CBA (and then spend time trying to figure out how to circumvent the new one), you have a system that doesn't work all that well to begin with. Hockey is also different from the next most physical major league sport in NA (NFL / CFL) because the action is ongoing, not 10 seconds followed by 40+ of inactivity. It is a different intensity level and different type of physical play.
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Two Leaf fans mock Parros' injury

»blogs.canoe.ca/slam/hockey/lowli···-injury/

It is these type of Leaf fans that always invade the Sens/Leaf games. Most Leaf fans are fine, then you get the guys like these
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those guys need a punch in the throat...better yet...once Parros is healthy again, they need to get their gear on and face him at center ice...now THAT would be instagram/youtube worthy...Orr would probably take them on himself as classy fighters like those two always have respect for each other and the game.

Hell of a hockey game! Fun to watch when you don't have a dog in the fight. Just
watching it as a fan of hockey. Perhaps the oldest longest lived rivalry in hockey.

I hope Parros is ok....he won both fights but lost in the end. Scary.

So Parros keeps his helmet on and still gets hurt! If 2 fighters opt to remove their
helmets so be it....scrap the rule.

Grabovski comes to life....must be a bitter pill for Leafs fans to swallow.

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Also, we've seen the NHL's complete and utter ineptitude when it comes to any sort of consistency with regards to fines / suspensions for other infractions, so I can't see how they'd do anything right on fighting either.

Players can get badly hurt from a hit...even a clean hit. Should hitting be taken out of the game? I think not....

PS: After posting. Looks like I'm replying directly to Kardinal. Which I am not. Just posting to the general thread....

I'd bet you that you'd sign for a $64 million contract wherever they ask you.

I do feel for the cleaners though, likely they'll have to settle for another pay cut.

But let's remember Parros injury really was from a fall to the ice and not from a punch. Nor did Orr judo throw him or shove him to the ice. Parros fell. A player could just as easily have hit the ice with his face from a hit (ala Kevin Stevens) or loosing their balance while skating...

I do not see this in the same vein as the Todd Bertuzi-Steve Moore incident.

What happened last night was an accident.

Nice try DJ and vue........ It happened as a direct consequence of the fight stop trying to worm and tea party your way out of it. I concur with the other person being immediately concerned with his fellow pugilist. It really shows that they really don't hate each other, have some respect, and really demonstrated that they are out their to do a job (what they are paid to do). SO, the comments by the CBC interview with Gretsky's enforcer is given more credence. It was a job that he hated but he was paid to do. It drove him to drink and drugs. The problem with expected violence at the National Level is that it sets the wrong example for youth in Canada and it as part of hockey filters down the chain.
It must be eradicated, hopefully before all you uncivilized, and at the same time pansy like, cretins on the couch are terminated by time.
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