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elwoodblues
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Bell taking the Feds to court

So that's 2 of the Robellus cartel that are going after the feds for changing the new entrant roaming rules.

What's Bell's problem? The intial deal was for 5yrs and they no longer had to share towers or providing roaming on their network. Industry Canada changed to infinite and reduces the time for arbitration (remember when the new players launched they were fought on every single tower they wanted on).

They also take issue with the new entrants being able to get 2 "slices" of the 700mhz spectrum.

This is not about allowing them to use their towers or roam on their networks , it's about kneecapping the new players. So basically it's ok to kneecap new players, but don't you dare kneecap us.

If you don't have an "away" area where you can roam on the incumbents network (for a price of course) you don't have a business. And if you don't have a business, well, we here at Robellus would be happy to pick up the pieces for you.

2ndly what's the problem? They're not using towers or roaming for free, Bell is getting paid for this.

As for the spectrum they obviously believe in competition, and that the deepest pockets win, there is no way any of the new players (even if they combined their resources) could outbid Robellus.

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Nitra

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You expected differently?



corster
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reply to elwoodblues

"BCE argues that the federal government cannot retroactively change conditions of wireless licences it bought years ago."

I'm sorry - "bought"? Didn't they get them for free?



Cliffy
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Kitchener, ON

So a carrier is complaining about someone changing the contract after it has been agreed to?

I hope someone points out to the judge how often telcos change customers contracts after signing.
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Guspaz
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reply to elwoodblues

They're talking about the AWS spectrum that Bell bought.



mlerner
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reply to corster

Also, I don't think you can "own" spectrum, it all belongs to Industry Canada and licensed to entities.



FiberToTheX
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reply to corster

said by corster:

"BCE argues that the federal government cannot retroactively change conditions of wireless licences it bought years ago."

I'm sorry - "bought"? Didn't they get them for free?

Yes they did.


Davesnothere
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reply to elwoodblues

said by elwoodblues:

....As for the spectrum they obviously believe in competition, and that the deepest pockets win, there is no way any of the new players (even if they combined their resources) could outbid Robellus....

 
OTOH, even if the playing field WAS 'leveled' in the ways that Robellus wants, Big Cats like Verizon similarly could STILL outbid even the combined resources of Robellus, due to Verizon's even deeper pockets.

So let everyone bid on all of the spectrum, and let the chips fall where they may.

Our 3 floundering newcomers have all made rumblings that they would each like to be assimilated anyway, so how serious can they be at this point about buying ANY new spectrum anyway ?


Guspaz
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reply to FiberToTheX

No, they didn't. We're talking about conditions on the AWS spectrum that the big three paid a hefty amount for. While they did indeed get tons of free spectrum in the past, that's not the spectrum they're complaining about here.
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34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to Davesnothere

said by Davesnothere:

OTOH, even if the playing field WAS 'leveled' in the ways that Robellus wants, Big Cats like Verizon similarly could STILL outbid even the combined resources of Robellus, due to Verizon's even deeper pockets.

There is no point in mentioning Verizon still when they're out of the picture and are not coming here.

34764170

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Etobicoke, ON
reply to Cliffy

said by Cliffy:

So a carrier is complaining about someone changing the contract after it has been agreed to?

I hope someone points out to the judge how often telcos change customers contracts after signing.

Exactly, it's Ok for these companies to do the same things to their customers but not for IC. They don't "own" the spectrum; it is licensed to them.