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seginus

join:2008-01-30
Worcester, MA

Images in Firefox not displaying?

Sorry if this is wrong place to post something like this but for some reason, i can no longer see images while in Firefox 23. I just get the broadband reports placeholder image. Everything seems fine in IE 10. Worked fine last time I was on Friday.

Haven't done anything I can think of to bork FF or anything. Any ideas?


tmpchaos
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I see them fine in ff23.

guppy_fish
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reply to seginus
Same for me, just started happening yesterday. 23.0.1


justin
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Nothing has changed this end.

What if you go to

»i.dslr.net/sk/bl/logo.gif

does it load.
Can you ping i.dslr.net, or traceroute to it.
(needless to say I have firefox 23.0.1 and it is working normally)


seginus

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I just blew away my install and started over. Mozbackup'd just my saved PWs and bookmarks but otherwise it was clean.
Manually reinstalled my add-ons and it is ok now.

Wish I had checked back before this so we could see if Guppy and I had any similarities in setup.
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guppy_fish
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Looks like all the images are no auto loading, if I right click on the default bbr image shown and select view image, I will see the image.

Nothing has changed on my PC, chrome works as does IE. Its something to do with the sites caching, no other website have issues that I visit.

Attached is an example for your thoughts:

( oh even the just uploaded image shows the default BBR image )

Oh, the sites gif loads fine, its only when there are images in posts

guppy_fish
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Hopefully this will help, looks like all site downloaded images are the issue


seginus

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reply to seginus
Just moved over to my other office PC and it is happening here now, too.

guppy_fish
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reply to seginus
It definitely a site issue with thumbnails


Treegravy
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reply to seginus
Same issue here. FF 23.0.1 "But Ma, I don't wanna re-install!"


justin
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reply to guppy_fish
does your browser or a stupid addon remove the referral field?
with no referrer field the image requests look like hotlinking.


Treegravy
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Oh. I changed it sometime ago in about:config and set the value of "Network.http.sendRefererHeader" to 0

This was in response to EFF's suggestions to ensure more private browsing.


justin
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Yes, that would do it. Unfortunately it breaks sites that have issues with people leaching images (hotlinking them elsewhere)
In this case thumbnails are indistinguishable from forum attachments which are often leached.

guppy_fish
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reply to seginus
I checked Network.http.sendRefererHeader , its set to 1

I haven't changed anything in my setup, I disabled AdBlock, Https anywhere and Ghostery, otherwise its stock Firefox

Something has changed, it showed up three days ago ... and since others have the issue it sure sounds like you tweaked something to prevent leaching and it has side effects


Treegravy
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Okay, thanks justin. So far this is the only site that breaks which is why I hadn't thought of it. I'll return to default for a bit and report results.

Edit: I just reset refferrerrrr (spelling ) to one, closed and re-launched. Came back to site and images load properly. (I would prefer to reset it back to 0 since it has so far made no difference to any site that I commonly use...except this one.)


justin
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Your screenshot is very specific: it is showing only a broken thumbnail on the home page, which means you're not sending the Referrer header, so for example posts with big images in them also will not show. Yes, I changed this three days ago because I find search engines leeching out images despite robots.txt blocking them.

you should figure out why your browser is not providing the referrer header.

BTW if I could kill adblock and ghostery I would the first is disrespectful to sites that offer free content in return for showing adverts. The second is just tin foil hat stuff.

guppy_fish
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Thank you for confirming its your changes ...

All the add-ons are disabled, so its something stock in firefox, unless its something in the privacy settings and cookies


justin
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it isn't my changes, they are neutral to regular browsers otherwise this topic would be flooded with people with the same issue.

Something else on your end is stripping stuff from your browser requests, that would have broken other sites as well perhaps you never noticed. For example wordpress will not deal if you disable referrer.


n1zuk
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Well, I'll add one more user seeing the same issue.

FF 23.0.1, very little for add ons.

network.http.sendrefererheader was set to 1. Been trying both 0 and 1, clearing cache and closing/relaunching Firefox, but still no joy. Nothing changes.

Broke about 2 days ago (Tuesday AM, NY time). not seeing a problem on any other website, and dslreports works OK with IE (though I never use IE, so wouldn't know a change if there was one).
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justin
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I'm using firefox 23.0.1 and it works fine of course.

Here is an example link to an image that will break with no Referer line.

»/r0/download/2···GoGo.PNG

From Firefox 23 go to Inspector (right button on the page Inspector)
then go to Network tab.
Look for the request to load this image when you click the link.

Do you see the Referer line? you must see it there, otherwise the link will not load and will instead give you a redirect.

If you see it, then the referer line is getting stripped out further onward from firefox.


justin
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reply to seginus
Also if you have this issue you should probably look at some of these links maybe one rings a bell:

»www.google.com.au/search?q=firef···&spell=1


justin
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So I am tired of problems caused by extensions and created a simple test page.

»/cookies

you should be able to get this test page to look like this:




Treegravy
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Okay. I got the test page to look like what your attachment looks like when I click on it twice. I adjusted my extensions to get the same result you showed. But, I still get blown up thumbnail in the forum attachments. At least I guess they're attachments. Anyway, here's what I see:

edit: Anyway, I'm turning "https everywhere" back on but that seems to break the adverts your test page serves up. So, even with everything off I'm still not getting the forum functionality of a few days ago. And my preview of this post shows the same thumbs and the post looks like thumbs too.


justin
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can you hit the page containing the bad images a few more times with shift reload as well as I've added a debug on my end for your IP address I want to see exactly what headers are coming through..

edit: 10 minutes so far, and all I see getting dealt these redirects is bad user-agents with no referer header lines:

msnbot-media/1.1
Superfish/1.1
PHP/5.4.18

and of course sites that have hotlinked images.


Treegravy
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I got back about 7-8 mins ago and then back again 1-2. I'll click a couple time to check.


justin
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Can you change from secure.dslreports.com to www.dslreports.com and try.

and do you run https anywhere.


Treegravy
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That's what I did. I'm showing "http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r28641852-Images-in-Firefox-not-displaying-"


Treegravy
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Normally I run https everywhere/adblock plus/referrer = 0/ modify headers (but that's turned off at the moment... hmm, I'll disable that too and try again also)


justin
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reply to Treegravy
I don't know what to say, your browser is not sending the HTTP Referrer header line for some of your requests that is what the logs are telling me.
Try deleting firefox and re-installing. Try Chrome or Safari. If it works on IE, Chrome and Safari on your PC your copy of Firefox is not working right.


justin
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reply to Treegravy
and don't run https everywhere it is broken. You can be https here if you want just start in https you don't need that addon.