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Immer
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reply to cat666

Re: 5.4 first impressions

not single target on a raid boss. much easier to accomplish AoE on lvl90 and lvl91 mobs. Disc auto-hit cap (for lvl93 mobs) only applies to holy spells, not shadow. Those are still awesome numbers in general, but they won't translate to raid-healing and dps numbers.
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Carpie

join:2012-10-19
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reply to DarkLogix

He got the crit trink last night for 50,000 coins which procs ~9k crit and is in his "dps gear" since mana on trash isn't an issue. But still... damn. Looking past my own dps struggles with Affliction, I have to give him credit. He's really setting a bar for me.
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Absolution -- 6/6 MSV, 4/6 HoF, 4/4 ToES, 12/12 ToT
Pride and Ego -- 6/6 MSV 1/6H, 6/6 HoF, 4/4 ToES, 11/12 ToT



Carpie

join:2012-10-19
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reply to Immer

said by Immer:

I hope the runestones drop well in flex and normal,

FWIW, we downed two bosses last night on Flex and I received a Secret on each of them. Which to me was even better than loot because I want these legendary farm quests DONE.
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Absolution -- 6/6 MSV, 4/6 HoF, 4/4 ToES, 12/12 ToT
Pride and Ego -- 6/6 MSV 1/6H, 6/6 HoF, 4/4 ToES, 11/12 ToT


DarkLogix
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reply to Carpie

I need to see what I can really do, I wish the target dumbies were more spread out, they mess up testing due to aoe splash, and I'd rather test single target (inferno blast which I use when heating up procs to get a pyro proc also spreads fire dots and nether tempest hits nearby targets randomly in adition to its tick.
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DarkLogix
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reply to Carpie

here's your updated sig

Absolution -- 6/6 MSV, 4/6 HoF, 4/4 ToES, 12/12 ToT, 0/14F 0/14N SoO
Pride and Ego -- 6/6 MSV 1/6H, 6/6 HoF, 4/4 ToES, 11/12 ToT, 0/14F 0/14N SoO
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Carpie

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4 edits

said by DarkLogix:

Absolution -- 6/6 MSV, 4/6 HoF, 4/4 ToES, 12/12 ToT, 0/14F 0/14N SoO
Pride and Ego -- 6/6 MSV 1/6H, 6/6 HoF, 4/4 ToES, 11/12 ToT, 2/14F 0/14N SoO

Corrected:

Absolution -- 6/6 MSV, 4/6 HoF, 4/4 ToES, 12/12 ToT, 2/14F 0/14N SoO
Pride and Ego -- 6/6 MSV 1/6H, 6/6 HoF, 4/4 ToES, 11/12 ToT, 0/14F 0/14N SoO

And after tonight on PnE:

Absolution -- 6/6 MSV, 4/6 HoF, 4/4 ToES, 12/12 ToT, 2/14F 0/14N SoO
Pride and Ego -- 6/6 MSV 1/6H, 6/6 HoF, 4/4 ToES, 11/12 ToT, 3/14F 2/14N SoO

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Absolution -- MSV: 6/6 0/6H -- HoF: 4/6 -- ToES: 4/4 -- ToT: 12/12 -- SoO: 2/14F */14
Pride and Ego -- MSV: 6/6 1/6H -- HoF: 6/6 -- ToES: 4/4 -- ToT: 11/12 -- SoO: */14F */14


DarkLogix
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That reminds me I think I might need to stock up on pots and 300 food

hum I think I need to also sell a bag to wratho.
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cat666

join:2013-04-26
reply to Immer

My Shaman can do 20k in resto spec, pushing up to 35k if I use the Fire Elemental/BL too all single target.

AOE she's awful.



Immer
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reply to DarkLogix

said by DarkLogix:

Pride and Ego -- 6/6 MSV 1/6H, 6/6 HoF, 4/4 ToES, 11/12 ToT, 2/14F 0/14N SoO

PnE hasn't done any flex

ok, I see the edit now. I don't plan on maintaining "flex" numbers, though.
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DarkLogix
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reply to cat666

I think I might be able to do 20k with my wand (I haven't tried)
last time I used it regularly was sindergosa, as a work around for unchained magic you know when it was current and the strat had to be followed (now I just ignore it and let it stack)

the old strat was at X stacks stop casting and use the wand (as it didn't count as a spell) until debuff falls off then stack back with group and cast. that way instead of doing no dps you'd do something.
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DarkLogix
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reply to Immer

said by Immer:

said by DarkLogix:

Pride and Ego -- 6/6 MSV 1/6H, 6/6 HoF, 4/4 ToES, 11/12 ToT, 2/14F 0/14N SoO

PnE hasn't done any flex

Copy and paste error, carpie fixed it
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Immer
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reply to Carpie

said by Carpie:

He got the crit trink last night for 50,000 coins which procs ~9k crit and is in his "dps gear" since mana on trash isn't an issue.

I know he doesn't do Holy, but running holy spec, shadow gear, and chakra:Chastise... he'd do even more dmg.
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kingdome74
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reply to Carpie

I like the island and I like the Proving Grounds. Although Bliz got off to good start now we seem to be caught in an endless restart loop. While it's a pain constantly relogging in it did fix a huge artifact problem I was having that was so bad I couldn't go into any caves on TI.



Carpie

join:2012-10-19
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reply to Carpie

Other than the raids, I'm pretty jaded of the 5.4 content already. You can see all that there is to see pretty quickly and then (at least for me) it just turns into repeatedly killing mobs to farm coins. And if you are decently geared already and planning to do Flex raids, I end up asking myself why I'm bothering to farm coins anyhow when the Flex/Reg gear is going to be the better items.

Even though you can get upgraded 535 items on the isle, my experience so far has been that it is better to stick with the 530 4pc items. And now that there isn't any VP gear and you are just spending it on upgrades for gear you may end up getting, there isn't any motivation to get VP capped either.
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Absolution -- MSV: 6/6 0/6H -- HoF: 4/6 -- ToES: 4/4 -- ToT: 12/12 -- SoO: 2/14F */14
Pride and Ego -- MSV: 6/6 1/6H -- HoF: 6/6 -- ToES: 4/4 -- ToT: 11/12 -- SoO: */14F */14



cat666

join:2013-04-26
reply to Carpie

Timeless Isle has a lot for me in terms of pets/mounts/cheevos. The lock geared out the priest or mage in drops in just one week which is nice, but not really needed as I struggle to maintain 2 "mains".

Gear wise, it really isn't a place for mains. My lock has the ability to get one 535 item, but none of the tokens I have will upgrade a 510 piece and is it really worth wasting it for the extra 5 ilevels by replacing a 530 piece, considering I then have to gem and enchant it again, and will probably get a better piece from Flex.

I think it will take me a month or two to get bored.



Skittles
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join:2011-03-31

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reply to Carpie

agreed, however I logged my rogue this morning and went out to isle for his first visit, went to mid and they were fighting tiger boss...got my tag in and he dropped the 553 pants..nice way to go to work.



DarkLogix
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reply to cat666

said by cat666:

Timeless Isle has a lot for me in terms of pets/mounts/cheevos. The lock geared out the priest or mage in drops in just one week which is nice, but not really needed as I struggle to maintain 2 "mains".

Gear wise, it really isn't a place for mains. My lock has the ability to get one 535 item, but none of the tokens I have will upgrade a 510 piece and is it really worth wasting it for the extra 5 ilevels by replacing a 530 piece, considering I then have to gem and enchant it again, and will probably get a better piece from Flex.

I think it will take me a month or two to get bored.

Well I got a 543 via the isle

496 boots, apply unbounded item it becomes a 535, add 500vp and 543.

I had mastery on my old boots so its an upgrade to drop the mastery and it was 13 ilvl's gain. (and as I was at hard cap its a little nice to be able to earn VP again)
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Feralmordius

join:2011-01-18

The burdens dont have the best stats and they also dont have gems. I think alot of the 522s upgrade 2/2 are better than the 543s. I did get 543 bracers and a ring which worked out ok.
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Carpie

join:2012-10-19
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reply to Skittles

Doing the world bosses each week will definitely be a reason to go. And to some extent the 50 lesser charms, though with the current drop rate that only takes about 10 min. Our priest who just turned in his 50,000 coins for his trinket had also accumulated around 1700 lesser charms in the process. I would not be surprised if they nerf the drop rate on those.
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Absolution -- MSV: 6/6 0/6H -- HoF: 4/6 -- ToES: 4/4 -- ToT: 12/12 -- SoO: 2/14F */14
Pride and Ego -- MSV: 6/6 1/6H -- HoF: 6/6 -- ToES: 4/4 -- ToT: 11/12 -- SoO: */14F */14



DarkLogix
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said by Feralmordius:

The burdens dont have the best stats and they also dont have gems. I think alot of the 522s upgrade 2/2 are better than the 543s. I did get 543 bracers and a ring which worked out ok.

Agreed, though I was using the crafted boots which were hit/mastery and mastery is my worst stat, I did hang onto the crafted boots so I can compare later. (when I was looking what to use the unbound on I looked for which of my items is least BIS (IE bad stats and of course excluded any tier slots, if it could be used on a trinket it'd have been much better as that's still my only 510)
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Venom1

join:2011-10-21
Augusta, GA
reply to Carpie

or the spawn rate of the mobs



Carpie

join:2012-10-19
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Anyone know if shield tokens drop? Almost unbelievably, our 525 prot warrior has had zero luck on shield drops in LFR or Regs of ToT and still has... wait for it... a 463 shield.
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Absolution -- MSV: 6/6 0/6H -- HoF: 4/6 -- ToES: 4/4 -- ToT: 12/12 -- SoO: 2/14F */14
Pride and Ego -- MSV: 6/6 1/6H -- HoF: 6/6 -- ToES: 4/4 -- ToT: 11/12 -- SoO: */14F */14



cat666

join:2013-04-26

No weapons (so I'm guessing shields count) or trinkets it said on Icy Veins. Although I'm sure I read on here someone got a trinket. 100% no-no weapons wise though.



DarkLogix
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there's a trinket 496 that drops, but you can't use a burden on it. (lame)
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Xenograffiti

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reply to Carpie

My first impression of 5.4 is that I like it. I'm having a lot of fun on the isle. I haven't run SoO yet as I took a long break and am gearing up in ToT still.

Also, what's really fun is to kite a Great Elder Turtle from the beach over to the NPC's near the Celestials. Their AOE knockback and 1-shot breath attack is appreciated by all.



Kilroy
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Saint Paul, MN
reply to cat666

I've seen no weapons or shields, on 22 toons running the island and I've opened at least 200 boxes.



Immer
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Evans, GA
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reply to Carpie

I really liked the puzzles. I was kinda hoping more of the island treasure chests would be like the pedestal hopping, tight-rope walking, and high-flying chests. It's not like they couldn't easily expand on some of these puzzles without a major patch. I have yet to do the albatross thing.
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DarkLogix
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I was a little surprised that they made all the big ones marked on the mini-map (I was expecting to have to hunt more.)

though good thing the big ones are personal and weekly.
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DrOsmosious
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join:2013-09-13
Fayetteville, NC

I, too, was surprised by the giant silver chest on my mini-map. I first saw it near the pillars and thought people were gathered around the spawn point, but turns out they were waiting for something that comes from those small grey mounds. Are those some quest related things? Also, are the giant, non-marked-on-mini-map chests accessible once a week or daily?



Fiftycals

join:2010-02-16
El Paso, TX
reply to Carpie

I'm not impressed with Mindless Isle at all. The alts I have don't need the 496 gear and I don't plan on leveling any other alts for the time being.

I've only looted one 535 upgrade token while my wife has already looted 6... WTF

All we've been doing on the isle is taking birds up to Ordos area and farming the elites there. Besides the new raid I'm not too happy with this patch.