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floydb1982

join:2004-08-25
Kent, WA

1080p/120Hz doesn't look right on my 1080p/120Hz HDTV

I set my Insignia 55" Class 54-5/8" Diag. LED 1080p/120Hz HDTV to 120Hz and My Philips BDP5506/F7 Blu-ray player to 1080p/24Hz.

When I get fast motion video on any Blu-ray the image will start breaking apart on the bottom of the screen with box squares.

Sort of look's like old worn out garbled video tape out of the early 80's.

Watch a Blu-ray at 60Hz and the fast moving motion video doesn't break apart at all.

On the other I'll watch Blu-ray in straight 24Hz only and those fast moving motion video still don't break apart at all but look way more full high definition at 24Hz than 120Hz or 60Hz.

Why is that??? Should 1080p/120Hz look better than 24Hz???



aurgathor

join:2002-12-01
Lynnwood, WA
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"should" is a key word. What you see are artifacts due to insufficient CPU/decoding power.

You should watch movies at their native frame rate, or if you want higher frame rate, transcode them externally with a good encoder. (mencoder, ffmpeg, etc.)
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Camelot One
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join:2001-11-21
Greenwood, IN
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said by aurgathor:

"should" is a key word. What you see are artifacts due to insufficient CPU/decoding power.

You should watch movies at their native frame rate, or if you want higher frame rate, transcode them externally with a good encoder. (mencoder, ffmpeg, etc.)

This. When your source is 24fps, there is no point "setting" any of the devices to anything else. 24fps is all your eyes need. The only reason 120hz (and 240hz) displays are marketed is to avoid the pull down mismatch of a 24fps source on 60fps displays.

And if you really want to improve your picture, stop buying Insignia displays.
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stet
Volitar Prime

join:2002-03-08
Utica, MI
reply to floydb1982

Make sure that you have "Insignia Motion" and/or any other video post-processing done by the TV turned off.
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BoulderHill1

join:2004-07-15
Montgomery, IL
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reply to floydb1982

Exactly as Camelot said.

And I tried illustrating for you in the past. Faster does not equal better. Meaning 120 hz does not automatically mean it is better than 60 or 24.

From the nature of your posts and questions it sounds very much like you have bought into the marketing jibber jabber that is prevelant in electronics. Ideas like Gold plated Monster HDMI cables will produce a better digital picture. Or you need a digital antenna for digital broadcasts. Or faster is better.

The sales and marketing departments prey on the fact that the vast majority of consumers are naïve and ignorant of how these devices actually work but are instead amazed with and gullible to the buzzwords that sound impressive.

As was said 24fps is all your eyes need to produce a smooth image. It is how film has been done for years and since film can and does achieve resolution, color, depth, and smoothness that newer digital methods can only scratch the surface of, it would seem that this is the best way to view your movie content.

So you should be making sure your BLURAY player is set to play BD discs at 24 and then also set you TV to match that and you will see the best possible image that those devices together can create.

If you want better that that then you would need the actual movie films from the studio and the proper projector. And a screen.