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Re: [MB] fibre in Winnipeg?

Ok....

He says there are cost savings with GPON... which there are assuming you are geared to handle the rollout. He also mentions there are advantages to EPON and services you can deliver with it that you just can't with GPON... that's also true.

So that's how o-net is doing things... You're assuming Shaw has made the exact same decisions in every test market they are doing fiber in?

I know for a fact there are residential EPON installs in the US, as I've had face to face conversations with the people responsible for planning and rolling them out.
It's really not that much of a stretch for me to think that Shaw may have some out there, regardless of what their plan may be going forward.

You're not in a position to conclusively say Shaw doesn't have any residential EPON, yet once again you have no problem using questionable logic to connect the dots on subjects you don't understand, and speak as though you are.

We should probably just let this thread die... I can only see it going further off the rails from here.

you make it sound like im not willing to change my opinion, which i am, i just wanted some proof and it seems stolen has actually done that for me which has help shed some light about why other users were thinking shaw is on epon, but that doesnt make them right saying all business shaw is gpon and the residential is epon, like ravenchilde said in another post, that was the main logic i was arguing with

"That is a business GPON install. The residential service would be EPON.". -ravenchilde

so just to clarify that statement was not true.

now what stolen posted obviously shows shaw did have some intention of using residential gpon for there fiber trials, but i believe that was an initial mistake of shaw thinking they were doing the right thing when it was not financially correct, and that info on epon, is over 2 years old back when shaw only had 4 FTTP locations, so i do realize its possible for those to have epon, all im trying to clarify and make sure people understand now is that any future shaw residential setup with fiber will all be on gpon from now on, is that really that hard to agree with?

115 a month times 64, i think shaw would rather make $7360 a month for 1 fiber then making $115 like epon would, and i believe thats why the fiber was free initially, then when they probably charging after 6 months, no one wanted to pay the 200 a month they could have been askign, so they switched to gpon and made it 115 a month

when/if epon installs were ever done shaw probably didnt have money involed they just wanted to try new tech and get it workin, still 0 pictures of a shaw fiber epon install and a bunch of residential GPON, i suspect another contributing reason to them starting with epon was that was probably what they used to use for high quality business customers wanting fiber so it was easier just to switch it over to home users instead of immediately jumping to the gpon plateform
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Shaw Broadband 100/5 - Cisco DPC3825 - Asus RT-AC66U

Connor M, you seem to be under the mistaken assumption that EPON = ACTIVE E. That could not be further from the truth. PON = passive optical network. EPON = Ethernet Passive Optical Network. Active Ethernet (by definition) cannot be passive. Instead of a passive optical splitter, it uses an active optical switch.
EPON is extremely similar to GPON both in architecture (one fiber fed to a passive fiber splitter, the split fibers are fed to homes) and cost. I don't see anyone here arguing that Shaw is using Active E, there's only quibbling about which PON architecture is being used, GPON vs EPON.

lol im not even arguing anymore. i already called shaw fttp team and they said everything is and will be GPON but some people have decided to argue with that so i have been trying to get some legitimate evidence of why users thought shaw was using EPON for residential and thought that may have been shaws initial plan or idea, it is not anymore, simple as that, as far as im concerned EPON is active e, its the same thing, not gonna even bother arguing with u. and i dont get what ur trying to prove as i have already proven and stated shaw uses gpon like 10 times, i also said in an above post that i never said shaw does not use EPON, i said they are not using it for residential, and they arent, even tho they may have before.
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Shaw Broadband 100/5 - Cisco DPC3825 - Asus RT-AC66U

Re: [MB] fibre in Winnipeg?

If corbin says it, it is most likely correct