We discuss all kinds of tv shows in here. We have for years. Three posts down there's one about Homeland. It's neither anime or sci-fi. It's a drama/thriller. We also discussed Game of Thrones to death. It's neither anime or sci-fi. It's fantasy. True Blood? Fantasy.
Anime/Sci-fi really has been Anime/Sci-fi/Fantasy/TV/Movies for quite a while, and that's because it's the only centralized, non-regionalized forums where people can discuss media that come out everywhere. There's no TV/Movies forum on this site.
Ultimately, if you felt the post might not interest you because it didn't stick to the expected theme, would it really have hurt to simply skip over the title and move on to the next thread? Food for thought.
Yeah, in the absence of a "TV Shows/Movies" forum a lot of those discussions have found shelter here. I also have no issues with that. -- Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Well, this forum has been for anime, sci-fi, and fantasy forever. What used to be a rare sprinkling of none of these three has become a frequent thing, which I find rather sad: no anime or sci-fi or fantasy to discuss... Hey! let's talk about anything we want to! (That's what the Pub and Cooler are for. Or maybe you belong over on IMDb.) Pardon me for remarking about a few "hardcore" members (hardheaded?) taking the forum in a direction different from that for which it was created.
Justin et al should either rename and "repurpose" the forum or move that which doesn't belong here to the "social" forums. Moderators in the other forums don't seem to have had any problem moving topics around.
The inclusion of more topics of conversations does not preclude the possibility of discussing animes and fantasy as you did before. It actually brings more people to the forum which, in turn, provides a bigger audience and more topics.
If the discussions of animes and sci-fi topics diminished over time it's certainly NOT because we discuss other topics as well, it's because the interest of in those topics has declined. Renaming forums or moving topics will not change that.
For what it is worth we have been asking for a TV/movie forum that would not discriminate on geography (which is what this forums does) and the request was never granted, so many people adopted this forum.
Breaking Bad is fiction and it's about the science of drugs, so it's science fiction. BOOM!
Edit: just wanted to say that I do agree with you, though. We should either rename this forum or create a new one (I prefer this option, because then we preserve your sanctum and we should because it's been here for a while). It makes very little sense that two very, very specific sub-genres media have a dedicated forum to them, but a general TV/movie forum doesn't exist.
That phone call at the end... it destroyed me. I was surprised to see so many people had not gotten that Walt was acting it out to give Skylar an out. Taking Holly to convince the police he was a psychopath so that he may deliver that phonecall and leave no doubt that his wife was complicit. Plus, he wanted to provide closure to Marie by letting her know exactly what had happened. And as he said these things, and he cried, you could see he knew it was the last time he would be speaking to her and his family. And her "I'm Sorry" was a "I love you, thank you, I'm sorry, Goodbye" all at once.
I mean this was THE pivotal episode. The series will never be the same again. I don't remember ever being so entrenched into the fate of a character.
Everyone wins an emmy you say? Give them the frickin' SAG and Golden Globes too!
My prediction? Walter goes after the Aryans in an attempt to save Jesse. Seeing how much he begged for Hank's life ("Walt, you're the smartest guy I've ever met, but you're too stupid to know he made up his mind 10 minutes ago") made me sad. Walt clearly spotted Jesse way before he tells the Aryans. You can see him ponder the situation and we assume he concluded Jesse was responsible for Hank's death, indirectly.
Now that he has lost everything (well 11M is not nothing, but he lost his life, family and 70M all in a single afternoon) I think the reality of his actions will come back to him and he'll seek redemption.
Yea, I too don't understand how people missed the point of the phone call. I mean it was pretty obvious when he goes on stating how she was just a minion and he called the shots. When he first started the phone call, I was like "wtf Walt" and then I realize "ooo, damn Walt you are smart." -- What smells like blue?
And ya Walt gave Skyler an out, I just hope she takes it. I don't think he'll save Jesse, but its not off the table.
He told him about Jane because he thought it'd be the last time he'd see him, and as far as Walt knows Jesse is dead.
But I do see Walt going after the neo-nazis because they're a threat to his family, lydia is also likely on the chopping block.
I wouldn't put it past him to kill Jesse himself while he's cleaning up the Aryans, but he might not have the heart to.
Based on the flash forwards we've seen he's saying gone for awhile so it could be when the cancer is about to take him anyway and he's found a way to get the money to his family.
BTW there is another Breaking Bad thread on DSLR, its much longer and aons can't even see it, and I can't link it to you. -- semper idem 1KTzRMxN1a2ATrtAAvbmEnMBoY3E2kHtyv
I think Jessie needs to die. His character has annoyed me for the longest time, with his idiotic, self-destructive ways, and how he seems to f*ck everything up with his stupidity. Walt and Gus had it right. Be smart, stay under the radar, and don't get caught. Jessie is an idiot, and needs to go. -- "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo
I think Jessie needs to die. His character has annoyed me for the longest time, with his idiotic, self-destructive ways, and how he seems to f*ck everything up with his stupidity. Walt and Gus had it right. Be smart, stay under the radar, and don't get caught. Jessie is an idiot, and needs to go.
Only 2 eps left so chill on the jesse hate. -- semper idem 1KTzRMxN1a2ATrtAAvbmEnMBoY3E2kHtyv
quote:The last two episodes of the series will run about 10 minutes longer than usual. Both episodes, Sunday's (Sept. 22) "Granite State" and the Sept. 29 finale, "Felina," will run from 9 to 10:15 p.m. ET.
quote:We'd say "adjust your DVRs accordingly," but chances are that's already happened.
I think Jessie needs to die. His character has annoyed me for the longest time, with his idiotic, self-destructive ways, and how he seems to f*ck everything up with his stupidity. Walt and Gus had it right. Be smart, stay under the radar, and don't get caught. Jessie is an idiot, and needs to go.
Clearly the Aryans are keeping Jesse around long enough to improve the purity of their cook. Jesse did see the picture of his girlfriend and her son so the implication seems to be that their lives are forfeit should he attempt to escape. Once they have learned the necessary methods to maintain a high purity Jesse becomes a liability (a known snitch and witness to the murder of two DEA agents).
Walter may have guessed that the Aryans have their own agenda based on the fact that they were trying to coerce him to cook for them and Jesse having similar abilities in that area.
So who was the poison for?
Was Walt trying to off himself or perhaps he was trying to get it to Jesse as part of an escape plan,......?
Right you are, I don't really make that much of a distinction between Todd and his uncle though as they seem to be working together. Todd worked with Jesse and Walt in a lesser capacity so it should click as a possibility in Walt's mind,.....once a cooler head has a chance to prevail.
The thing that is a minor plot hole is that there are a lot of people that would never work another day in their lives if they had the kind of money they lifted off of Walt. Why bother with the quality of the cook when you have FU money like that?
Right you are, I don't really make that much of a distinction between Todd and his uncle though as they seem to be working together. Todd worked with Jesse and Walt in a lesser capacity so it should click as a possibility in Walt's mind,.....once a cooler head has a chance to prevail.
The thing that is a minor plot hole is that there are a lot of people that would never work another day in their lives if they had the kind of money they lifted off of Walt. Why bother with the quality of the cook when you have FU money like that?
Greed/power/ego is a powerful drug. Walt made tons of money before but still went on. Sometimes its never enough. -- "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." Neil deGrasse Tyson
It could have gone down a number of different ways.
The Aryans probably already have a criminal record a mile long. They just killed a Federal agent. Offing the remaining Fed (Hank) makes perfect sense from that point of view because there was no walking away from that once they started shooting in the first place.
Still, especially after retrieving the money the prudent thing would have been to complete the contract on Jesse and kill Walt,......regardless of what either one of them had to say about it.
The only reason to keep either one of them alive is if it were of some specific benefit to them because that $@#! could go sideways fast if they decide to turn states evidence.
Why risk it?
Greed, power, ego sure it could be that but I'd put my money on stupid.
A real transition episode. I'm changing my theory for the ricin tablet again. I think that's going to go to the Grey Matter couple.
Todd....man that guy is just .....oww. "Nothing personal.....POW". I also really liked how the music kind of circled around the main theme toward the end. It wasn't exact, but built up to it at the fade out. Absolutely perfectly done.
I'm guessing the phone call to the DEA at the end was to draw attention to the fact that Walt is in NH. That would focus local police and US Marshall forces in that vicinity allowing him a bit more leeway to get back to New Mexico. I really want to know where is family has ended up at this point.
Really hopeful the end will be epic and not a let down. Vince Gilligan has delivered for 5 solid seasons so the odds are certainly with him.
Imho killing Andrea is probably the most cruel and cold blooded thing we've seen on the show. She is a true innocent. From memory, I can't remember the show ever sacrificing an innocent like that.
In second place you'd probably have that chemist that worked for Gus whom Jesse killed to force Gus in keeping Walt and Jesse alive. But the chemist was a drug cook so he wasn't exactly an innocent man.
I think the extra 15min to the episode was a godsend. A great big "I love you" to the fans of the show.
When shows end they often feel rushed but the extra time in this last ep just seemed right in order to tell the story that they were trying to tell. It really goes a long way with respect to ending things right IMO.
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