 chaudSerious Business
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Re: 300Mbps is Coming said by kherr:I don't see why everyone is making such a big deal. Even if it does come about, you wouldn't be able to afford it anyway ...
They are hoping that the slower tiers get a speed increase to go with it. |
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said by motorola870:the only thing that I have heard that is possibly in the works is 16 channel bonding in Socal where they are going all digital but can't confirm only heard it from a Charter contractor who has a contact out there in Socal. I can't verify this so take it with a grain of salt. not trying to start rumors but that was what I was told when the guy helped install internet for a business that I do work with here in North Texas and he was able to show me that 8 channels are in use in the Fort Worth Texas system right now on the downstream for internet. said by Metatron2008:If this happens I can imagine everyone on 2 or 3 tiers:
30/4 becomes either 50/5 or 50/10
100/5 becomes either 150/(Somewhere between 15-30 up) or 300/(Somewhere between 15-50 up)
Since it's taking so long I am guessing they are going to do this via 8 downstream channels instead of Comcasts's fiber. Which will keep costs down for both Charter and us, but it would hit around 280 at max.
Moto read up on DOCSIS 3.1 no need for more than 8 bonded channels somebody's blowing smoke your way on the subject of 16 bonded channels, it ain't happening. |
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| 300 Mbps is coming, that's for sure. Some states (like Alabama) will be transitioned over to the all-digital platform before the end of 2014.
There have been talks of launching a total of 16 DOCSIS channels after that. However, all 16 of them won't be bonded. Basically you'll have 2 sets of 8 QAMs and your modem will either be running on the first eight, or the last eight. |
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West Tenness | said by Yuuan:300 Mbps is coming, that's for sure. Some states (like Alabama) will be transitioned over to the all-digital platform before the end of 2014.
There have been talks of launching a total of 16 DOCSIS channels after that. However, all 16 of them won't be bonded. Basically you'll have 2 sets of 8 QAMs and your modem will either be running on the first eight, or the last eight.
And you're not even counting upstream which at some point will be bonded. Sorry 16 channels is using at least 1/8 of all your bandwidth just on download. I can't see Charter giving up and extra 48 MHz would could be used for a ton of HD for marginal improvement on internet. |
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brad
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Etobicoke, ON | reply to InTheKnow
said by :Moto read up on DOCSIS 3.1 no need for more than 8 bonded channels somebody's blowing smoke your way on the subject of 16 bonded channels, it ain't happening.
DOCSIS 3.1 is still at least 3 years away. |
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West Brookfield, MA | reply to CharterTech
Woo hoo! 300/5? 
Scott |
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in talking with the tech that came to fix my line issues, He said they are already actively testing a 250mbps tier, and the speed tiers will be 50/4, 100/5, and 250/7. Yup, doubt the upload rates will be being bumped large because charter still refuses to do channel bonding on upload. |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness | said by Chubbysumo:in talking with the tech that came to fix my line issues, He said they are already actively testing a 250mbps tier, and the speed tiers will be 50/4, 100/5, and 250/7. Yup, doubt the upload rates will be being bumped large because charter still refuses to do channel bonding on upload.
I'll take that with a HUGE grain of salt. A few years ago I was talking to a charter tech that came to my house and asked him when he though they would have Docsis 3.0 here. He said he didn't know what that was. |
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| This guy knew his business tho, and he said they had several locations actively testing the 250mb tier(he personally installed them, they are charter employees in his install area), and there was hardly any change on the upload speeds planned, since their plants cannot handle it in most places(due to lack of channel bonding). I believe it because he showed me a picture of the speedtest that the person took. Clearly showed 238mbps down, and 6.5mbps up. |
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West Tenness | said by Chubbysumo:This guy knew his business tho, and he said they had several locations actively testing the 250mb tier(he personally installed them, they are charter employees in his install area), and there was hardly any change on the upload speeds planned, since their plants cannot handle it in most places(due to lack of channel bonding). I believe it because he showed me a picture of the speedtest that the person took. Clearly showed 238mbps down, and 6.5mbps up.
I'd like to know WHY Charter refuses to upgrade the plants to increase upload. And heck upload isn't even critical to me, but I see the disparity is a joke. Also even on a single channel Docsis 3.0 can theoretically handle 27 Mbps upload on ONE channel. Even if you reduce that to 1/3 that's till 9 Mbps. |
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Spent the past few days working with Charter (belleville/st. louis area) as I upgraded my modem from the 6120 to 6141 for better bonding and added digital TV (olympics and world cup... thought we'd give it another try). All the techs can confirm Charter HSI will be getting speed bumps in the near future to compete with AT&T, but nobody can give me any sort of idea what those speeds are going to be, other than that the 30mbps speed will get bumped to 50mbps. Any other speeds are mere speculation and rumor unfortunately, but I'd say rumor alone is an indication speeds will be getting bumped because Charter's not going to let AT&T be #1 in speed by any stretch.
I just also want to point out Charter's corporate policies are making this company very difficult. I spent the better part of a day finding a tech over the phone that would provision my new modem to my account because the tech that came out wouldn't... "we no longer support customer owned equipment." Thankfully Charter no longer charges to rent modems. As of May, Charter has also taken away ALL account privileges from their phone customer support, meaning Charter no longer sends a guy out to your house to cut your service (thankfully), but if your account is even a second late past 15 days your services will be "soft disconnected". And finally Charter installed my TV service with three first gen digital boxes that had been VERY used... two of which didn't even turn on. I went to Charter and easily got replacements with newer models that weren't literally bigger than the shelves they sat on... I was appalled at the junk Charter left in my home (loved the box that radiated the foul stench of cigarettes).
I'm still pretty pleased with my Charter services thus far despite minor nuances, but I'm certainly on the lookout for a change if this masquerade should continue. |
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West Tenness | said by Trendecide: All the techs can confirm Charter HSI will be getting speed bumps in the near future to compete with AT&T, but nobody can give me any sort of idea what those speeds are going to be, other than that the 30mbps speed will get bumped to 50mbps. Any other speeds are mere speculation and rumor unfortunately, but I'd say rumor alone is an indication speeds will be getting bumped because Charter's not going to let AT&T be #1 in speed by any stretch. In my area the absolute max at&t can give you is 18 Mbps and they want $56 a month for that. I can't even get that. 12 Mbps for $51. SO charter doesn't have to do anything to already be better than at&t.
I just also want to point out Charter's corporate policies are making this company very difficult. I spent the better part of a day finding a tech over the phone that would provision my new modem to my account because the tech that came out wouldn't... "we no longer support customer owned equipment.". |
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kudos:1 | »More Rumors of AT&T U-Verse Speed Upgrades |
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West Tenness | Good for them. Still stuck at 12 Mbps where I'm at and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Hence why Charter will still get my business. Last time at&t was competitive in my area was 5 years ago when they offered 6 Mbps for the same price Charter was asking for 5 Mbps. |
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I try u-verse this time had nothing but issue and i'm very close to the vrad so i was able to get 45Mbps down and 6Mbps up even time i drop down to 35 so im waiting on charter upgrade now for there 50Mbps but till then they might have some comp in my area »C Spire to Deploy 1 Gbps Residential Fiber |
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Grants Pass, OR | reply to Chubbysumo
I cant believe they are going to be that stupid and go that route. I will have no trouble dropping my Ultra for 50/4.
said by Chubbysumo:in talking with the tech that came to fix my line issues, He said they are already actively testing a 250mbps tier, and the speed tiers will be 50/4, 100/5, and 250/7. Yup, doubt the upload rates will be being bumped large because charter still refuses to do channel bonding on upload.
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Moto read up on DOCSIS 3.1 no need for more than 8 bonded channels somebody's blowing smoke your way on the subject of 16 bonded channels, it ain't happening.
I think they're talking about TOTAL channels. 8 down and 8 up.
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They can offer 1gbps download and I still won't upgrade until the upload speeds are decent.
Upload speeds need to be one quarter to one half the download speed, period.
30/7.5, 100/25, 300/75
30/15, 100/50, 300/150.
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BF69Premium
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West Tenness | reply to TheTechGuru
said by TheTechGuru:I think they're talking about TOTAL channels. 8 down and 8 up.
I think most people would cream their jeans for just TWO channels on upload at this point. |
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