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·Optimum Online
| Diablo 3 Gold/RM AH being removed 3/18/2014 This news came as a shocker to me. The console versions have no AH so I wonder if that was the experiment. I for one will be happy to see it go. This announcement makes me wonder if that date given will be the release date for the Xpac.
»us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/10974978/
quote: When we initially designed and implemented the auction houses, the driving goal was to provide a convenient and secure system for trades. But as we've mentioned on different occasions, it became increasingly clear that despite the benefits of the AH system and the fact that many players around the world use it, it ultimately undermines Diablo's core game play: kill monsters to get cool loot. With that in mind, we want to let everyone know that we've decided to remove the gold and real-money auction house system from Diablo III. We feel that this move along with the Loot 2.0 system being developed concurrently with Reaper of Souls will result in a much more rewarding game experience for our players. We're working out the details of how the auction house system will be shut down, but we wanted to share the news as soon as we made the decision in order to give everyone as much advance notice as possible. Please note that the shutdown will occur on March 18, 2014. We will keep everyone informed as we work through this process. Josh Mosqueira and I wanted to provide everyone with a little more information behind this decision, so please have a look at the video, and stay tuned to this site for further updates in the months ahead.
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 stvnbrsPremium join:2009-03-17 Cary, NC kudos:5 | first reaction: Ho-ly shit.
Considering I have made maybe a mill off the ah and found absolute shit playing, now I am starting to worry. I seriously hope they get the item drops done right this time or this game will have nothing going for it. Hearing the console players version of the game gives me some relief as they seem to be happy with their drops. Time will tell, but overall this is a good move for the game and franchise and I give credit to Blizzard for being willing to do things like can Jay "fuckthatloser" Wilson and now remove the AH. Seriously, it feels like the recipe for success for Josh Mosqueira is to ask: "what has Jay done"? Then: "ok, fucking do the opposite of that stupid shit." -- No trees were harmed by this posting, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. |
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·Comcast
| reply to Taino
Finally. They should've done this faaaaaarrrrr earlier than NOW. Hell, if Blizzard made this decision within the first few months the game was out then maybe Diablo 3 could've been, at the very least, salvageable! *Gasp!* I know, right!?
Doing this now is my textbook definition of "(far) too little, (far) too late." |
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 KoilPremium join:2002-09-10 Irmo, SC kudos:1 | reply to Taino
I came here to post this...and hollllllly shit is right.
Wow...this is a MAJOR deal. I'm honestly floored that they're doing it. Should have been done a long time ago, but man....good move by Blizz, for sure. |
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 TigerLordResident pentaxianPremium,Mod join:2002-06-09 Canada kudos:6 | Blizzard going back on its word Microsoft changing its Xbox One parameters
All because of the whiny Internet! POWER TO US. |
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 jmn1207Premium join:2000-07-19 Ashburn, VA kudos:1 | reply to Taino
The auction house undermined the core gameplay. The DRM was pathetically annoying. Both of these destroyed the single player experience for many gamers.
Too late a-holes. Moving on, and I will not forget or forgive easily. |
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Well neat.
Let's hope they fix the issue with items and stats going into 2.0. -- How lucky am I to have known someone who is so hard to say good-bye to. |
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·Comcast
| reply to TigerLord
Once again, this decision comes far, far too late. At this point, removing the AH(which was a HUGE issue for many, if not most, at launch) is like calling the firefighters in *after* the huge blaze burned for 1-2 years straight and torched everything to the ground.
I can't imagine how many poor souls still play Diablo 3. I've read some figures that were tossed around some time back. Some information that was posted back in May 2013 stated that an average of 2.1m/day unique Diablo 3 players log in (since launch: 2.1m/day; at launch: avg 5.8m/day). Btw- These figures constitute log ins worldwide.
I found this rather large D3 infographic while scrounging up some information on the web. Make note though that these figures in particular are from May 2013.
More recent figures seem much more grim. Some suggestion D3 get's 1m unique visitors daily, with as much as 3m/month. Supposedly, main chat rooms are completely empty and there are single digit public games available.
I will say that I do have my doubts to the validity of these numbers. |
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·Optimum Online
| I played the game for a bit in May as did many others for the "Birthday" week. Extra XP while they had the buff active. I got to paragon level 13 and honestly haven't played the game since. The need to farm gold to buy upgrades from the AH because drops even in MP8 which I was playing were still utter crap was still a turn off. |
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·Comcast
3 edits | @Taino - You have a PM.
I am in the middle of my own little personal "Blizzard ONLY Gaming Week" where I'm going to only play the Blizzard titles in my Library. I don't have a huge Blizzard game library but I have enough to game for days and hours on end.
I'll surely jump into some Diablo 3 action within the week of my Blizzard festivities. These last 2 days I've hopped right back into the SC2 ladders. My ol' lady says that she can tell when I'm back in the SC2 laddering hunt once again because I'm stressed the f*ck out all day long and both my blood pressure and cigarette count heavily increase. SC2 ranked ladder turns my ass into a grizzly ol' veteran & chain smoking machine. So gee! THANKS to all you SC2 ranked, ladder opponents(or assholes) for literally sending my ass slowly and methodically towards my early grave! Terrific, right!?
There is one small consolation I could go down with. My very only consolation prize... I'll have the last laugh because I'll probably be pointing 4-6(10?!) nukes in your base at the same time. Could make for 1 hell of a tombstone quote, that's for sure.
"Herein lies TruSm0ke...."
"Nuclear Launch Detected"
"WTF! Seriously, Sm0ke?" |
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·CenturyLink
| reply to Taino
Oh god oh god oh god.
Are things looking up? After reading a bunch of the skill tweaks on diablo.incgamers.com to the classes, Loot 2.0, adventure mode, endless dungeon mode, etc
I am flipping out over here.
AND THEY ARE BRINGING BACK FROZEN ORB!?
Savious faith in Blizzard has leveled up. -- Savious like Savior |
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Are things looking up? After reading a bunch of the skill tweaks on diablo.incgamers.com to the classes, Loot 2.0, adventure mode, endless dungeon mode, etc
I am flipping out over here.
AND THEY ARE BRINGING BACK FROZEN ORB!?
Savious faith in Blizzard has leveled up.
Level 1 to Level 2 is pretty quick. -- How lucky am I to have known someone who is so hard to say good-bye to. |
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 SaviousPremium join:2012-03-05 Belgrade, MT kudos:1 | Haha, it wasn't that low, but it was definently in the mid 50's. -- Savious like Savior |
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 SaviousPremium join:2012-03-05 Belgrade, MT kudos:1 | reply to Taino
To celebrate this momentous occasion, I've updated my signature. Enjoy. -- DSLRs number 1 Diablo 3 revival fan. |
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 SaviousPremium join:2012-03-05 Belgrade, MT kudos:1 | :-\ |
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 SaviousPremium join:2012-03-05 Belgrade, MT kudos:1 | reply to Taino
There is a new Wizard skill called Black Hole. Obviously going to be amazing. -- DSLRs number 1 Diablo 3 revival fan. |
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 bionicRodFunkier than a mohair disco ball.Premium join:2009-07-06 united state kudos:1 | reply to Taino
Others have posted my exact thoughts on reading that e mail: ho-lee shit. I would have bet good money against this ever happening. But damn, almost a year and a half after release? There would have to be a hell of a game drought for me to reinstall. At least they're admitting they fucked up. -- The world was movin' she was right there with it and she was |
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 GoggalorPsychonautPremium join:2009-06-09 Your Mind! kudos:2 | reply to Savious
said by Savious:There is a new Savious skill called Black Hole. Obviously going to be pr0n0rific.
Fixed that for ye. -- From Psychonauts - Lungfish Civilian: (describing Goggalor) He's impervious to bullets! ... and love! -- |
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 JobbieKeep It SimplePremium join:2010-08-24 Mexico kudos:2 | They have started sending emails:
"We are writing tell you about an important change to Diablo III: we're going to be removing the gold and real-money auction house system from the game.
When we initially designed and implemented the auction house system, the driving goal was to provide a convenient and secure system for trades. But after much review and player feedback, it became increasingly clear that despite the benefits of the AH system and the fact that many players around the world use it, it ultimately undermines Diablo's core game play: kill monsters to get cool loot.
We're working out the details of how the auction house system will be shut down, but we wanted to share the news as soon as we made the decision in order to give everyone as much advance notice as possible. Please note that the final shutdown will occur on March 18, 2014. We will keep everyone informed as we work through this process, but feel free to check out our blog post on the subject, and stay tuned to Diablo 3.com for further details." -- "I just wanted chili" - Krisnatharok |
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| reply to Taino
Unless they allow hosted game names there is going to be a huge issue with trading. Trade chat will just be bot central. Making diablo 3 just a single player online game which still will suck because its still pushing more users to play by themselves. If they are removing the AH and not doing anything to adjust for that, then all that's happening is we are losing a feature. Also without the AH there is no standardized currency. Gems wont do it since almost everyone has what they need, we need a return of a soj type currency, but since everything is so random we wont have that either. Also with the fact that everything good is basically gonna get BOA'ed I feel the game still wont be worth playing. All this is doing is helping the self founders happy, still keeping away all the people who wanted to see a d3 like d2lod expanded. The game still is trying to target the casuals and a few die hard blizzard fans.
I might be wrong but to me that's the way it looks.
About diablo 3 player numbers a real estimate would put the actual playing persons under the 200k mark. You have to figure in for bots and auction bots. |
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 KaltesPremium join:2002-12-04 Los Angeles, CA | reply to Taino
oh look, I got their spam email too said by TruSm0ke:Doing this now is my textbook definition of "(far) too little, (far) too late." said by TruSm0ke:Once again, this decision comes far, far too late. At this point, removing the AH(which was a HUGE issue for many, if not most, at launch) is like calling the firefighters in *after* the huge blaze burned for 1-2 years straight and torched everything to the ground. said by jmn1207:Too late a-holes. Moving on, and I will not forget or forgive easily. 1. Yup, this is not good news, this reeks of desperation, Blizzard gutting a core game feature without replacing it with anything. It just proves that the game was badly designed.
2. Closing the RMAH would have been a no-brainer. Closing the gold AH is different. The gold AH GREATLY made the game easier by allowing you to farm gold and buy exactly the gear you needed instead of farming inefficiently forever to get gear. Removing that efficiency will make what is already a boring grind into a longer boring grind.
said by stvnbrs: I give credit to Blizzard for being willing to do things like can Jay "fuckthatloser" Wilson and now remove the AH. 3. They didnt "can" him, he left a dying game for greener pastures within the company. If anything, it's a promotion. As for removing the AH, it was his idea as much as anyones: »www.ign.com/articles/2013/03/28/···we-could
said by TigerLord:All because of the whiny Internet! POWER TO US. 4. Blizzard doesn't care about the internet, but they DO care about losing money. They see their sales figures in the toilet, that's why they are doing this. Poor sales for the expansion pack are what really brought this issue forward.
CONCLUSION:
Blizzard has knows what they needed to do with Diablo 3 for a long, long time because those loot systems already exist in Diablo 2, Torchlight 2, Borderlands 1/2, and so on. Blizzard was too arrogant and thought it could inject WoW into the genre, but failed miserably. I don't think Diablo 3 is worth saving at this point. It is too old and too poorly designed to be fixed incrementally like this. |
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 SaviousPremium join:2012-03-05 Belgrade, MT kudos:1 Reviews:
·CenturyLink
| said by Kaltes:Blizzard has knows what they needed to do with Diablo 3 for a long, long time because those loot systems already exist in Diablo 2, Torchlight 2, Borderlands 1/2, and so on. Blizzard was too arrogant and thought it could inject WoW into the genre, but failed miserably. I don't think Diablo 3 is worth saving at this point. It is too old and too poorly designed to be fixed incrementally like this. Ugh, I was hoping people wouldnt continue to bash the game, because they have done so much to improve it.
First off, it has an expansion coming out in a few months. So saying its "too old" is ludicrous. Diablo 2 had patches and additional content added 5+ years after the game came out. Lets not forget that WoW is approaching 10 years old and is still getting attention. Starcraft 2 is older than Diablo 3 and just had an expansion released, with another one slated for further down the line. It does not appear to be Blizzards plan for any of their franchises to simply abandon it by the way side, especially a game that has sold 12 million copies.
Lets not forget to mention how much attention the game has already received. Since release, they have:
1. Improved legendaries and set items 2. introduced paragon levels 3. Tweaked the difficulties 4. Increased monster density in Inferno 5. Hellfire rings and keywardens 6. Monster Power 7. Added benfits for adventuring with other players, including an improved (although not perfect) match making system. 8. Probably more that I cant remember off the top of my head
Obviously they are dedicated to making the game better overall.
The changes that are coming in Reaper of Souls are far reaching. Its apparent that some of you arent following the game at all, but feel your thoughts on the subject are valid.
Loot 2.0 is coming prior to Reaper of Souls, which is an much improved loot system designed for less drops, but drops of much higher quality and youll see more drops specifically for your class. If you have played D3 at all in the last year, youll know that rares drop by the boat load, and 95% of them are trash. Loot 2.0 will change that.
Skill revamps. RoS is doing a huge overhaul on all class skills. You can find some of the datamined information on diablo.incgamers.com From what I have read so far, a lot of skills are getting completey redone, while others are getting modified.
Elemental damage changes. Now if you deal elemental damage it actually does something. Full details are better read in the class changes.
Long story short, Blizzard has done a lot to improve Diablo 3 over the course of its lifespan.
Saying its too old is a little silly. -- DSLRs number 1 Diablo 3 revival fan. |
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 jmn1207Premium join:2000-07-19 Ashburn, VA kudos:1 | reply to Kaltes
It seems the implementation of an auction house, in any form, had to be considered when determining the efficiency level for the loot being dropped during play.
The player reward system was flawed compared to past iterations of the game and others where loot is critical to the design. I seem to enjoy the mystery and excitement from loot discovery.
When I had hours-long sessions where I found nothing better than what I was already using and only the gold found was helpful, the game became very stale for me. And when the value of AH gold became hyper-inflated, I simply did not have the time available to grind away to make enough gold to keep up with the economy. By the time I had gathered my gold up to the 200,000 needed to buy some item I wanted earlier, it was already selling for no fewer that 1,000,000 gold.
The auction house was not fun for me, and I didn't want to spend ANY of my time messing around with it at all, but I was certain I was in the minority and just moved on to other games. Diablo 3 is not a game I will cherish as I did with Diablo 2. |
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 SaviousPremium join:2012-03-05 Belgrade, MT kudos:1 Reviews:
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| said by jmn1207:Diablo 3 is not a game I will cherish as I did with Diablo 2. this is why you should be vested in D3, not a fair weather sailor. As long as they keep working towards improvements I will always champion D3. -- DSLRs number 1 Diablo 3 revival fan. |
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 NightfallMy Goal Is To Deny YoursPremium,MVM join:2001-08-03 Grand Rapids, MI Reviews:
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·ooma
·Callcentric
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| said by Savious:said by jmn1207:Diablo 3 is not a game I will cherish as I did with Diablo 2. this is why you should be vested in D3, not a fair weather sailor. As long as they keep working towards improvements I will always champion D3. I have to agree with your assessment. I was not a fan of D3 at launch. I put the game away after a while. My cousin and I started playing again a month ago and wow, what an improvement. We aren't using the RMAH. We are finding a lot of fun just running around in the game and playing the game through as a duo. What a great coop game.
This game has improved over leaps and bounds when compared to where it was. -- My domain - Nightfall.net |
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 stvnbrsPremium join:2009-03-17 Cary, NC kudos:5 | said by Nightfall:This game has improved over leaps and bounds when compared to where it was. This. Unfortunately we still have members that only want to echo what they believe is popular opinion. The game is fun. It has flaws, but I am pretty happy with the new direction. Compared to where it was at the beginning to now, big difference in enjoyment. I am looking forward to the new patch, even though I am not playing it as much right now. Also, based on some of the drops that console players have been reported, it seems like they may have a formula to actually allow players to find their own upgrades. I expect to get a ton more official info come Blizzcon. -- No trees were harmed by this posting, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. |
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 KaltesPremium join:2002-12-04 Los Angeles, CA | reply to jmn1207
said by jmn1207:The auction house was not fun for me, and I didn't want to spend ANY of my time messing around with it at all, but I was certain I was in the minority and just moved on to other games. Diablo 3 is not a game I will cherish as I did with Diablo 2. You in the large majority. Everyone I know bought Diablo 3 because of the hype then dumped the game within a week. I made it as far as Nightmare Act 2 before I couldn't force myself to continue any further. All the auction house did was lay bare what a horrible hamster wheel Diablo 3 is. Taking it out doesn't fix Diablo 3 in the slightest. The real problem with Diablo 3 is that Diablo 3s loot system is laughably bad.
In Diablo 2, you had set items, uniques, rune words, gems, 3 tiers of base items, and rares. This was an interesting and multi-faceted approach. You could find uniques in your FIRST playthrough that would last the whole life of your character.
In Diablo 3, loot is like this:
player 1: OMG COOL I FOUND A SUPER RARE UNIQUE ITEM NAMED ASSRIPPER player 2: HEY BRO, HOW MUCH [PRIMARY STAT] + VIT DOES IT HAVE? player 1: LIKE HALF WHAT MY CURRENT BLUE ITEM IN THAT SLOT HAS player 2: LOL TRASH THAT SHIT, BRO player 1: HOLD ON, IMMA LOG OUT AND AH IT, BRB player 2: DAMN I HAVE TO WAIT FOR YOU AGAIN? GAH, IMMA TAKE A DUMP *player 1 leaves* *player 1 comes back* player 1: OOPS I AM CAPPED ON AUCTIONS I HAVE TO WAIT TILL SOMETHING SELLS player 2: LOL, NUB
You know what changes in that convo with the AH removed? This:
player 2: LOL TRASH THAT SHIT, BRO player 1: K VENDORED IT
Diablo 3 wont stop sucking, ever, because the game was DESIGNED WRONG. The game was designed with like 12-15 loot tiers instead of 3 like you had in Diablo 2. Every single Act at higher levels is a whole new loot tier. So no matter how awesome that item you just found is, a blue drop in Act 4 Inferno will be far better. This makes all loot outside of Act 4 Inferno worthless long-term, and once youre geared for Act 4 Inferno, so what? What's the point? There is no point except to kill Diablo over and over for no good reason.
Diablo 2 was designed to make you WANT to beat it over and over. Diablo 3 was designed to make you do a WoW-like grind just to beat it once.
Diablo 2 was a fun game. Diablo 3 was a cynical, insulting attempt to exploit Blizzard fans, and to rudely treat all gamers as if we were mindless game-breaking power gamers hell-bent on running through Blizzard's little rat-maze no matter how insultingly exploitative and lacking in entertainment value it was.
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 KaltesPremium join:2002-12-04 Los Angeles, CA | reply to Nightfall
said by Nightfall:My cousin and I started playing again a month ago and wow, what an improvement. We aren't using the RMAH. We are finding a lot of fun just running around in the game and playing the game through as a duo. What a great coop game. Now go play Torchlight 2 and tell me how Diablo 3 is a better co-op game.
Torchlight 2 was made on a fraction of Diablo 3s budget.
Did I mention Torchlight 2 has released a bunch of free DLC, released full modding tools, and as a result there are some VERY impressive mods out there, like »www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01···s-raids/ and more.
I also played a bit of Path of Exile, which I also think is plenty superior to Diablo 3 in everything but graphics for those who want the online persistence. |
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 NightfallMy Goal Is To Deny YoursPremium,MVM join:2001-08-03 Grand Rapids, MI Reviews:
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·ooma
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| said by Kaltes:said by Nightfall:My cousin and I started playing again a month ago and wow, what an improvement. We aren't using the RMAH. We are finding a lot of fun just running around in the game and playing the game through as a duo. What a great coop game. Now go play Torchlight 2 and tell me how Diablo 3 is a better co-op game. Torchlight 2 was made on a fraction of Diablo 3s budget. Did I mention Torchlight 2 has released a bunch of free DLC, released full modding tools, and as a result there are some VERY impressive mods out there, like » www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01···s-raids/ and more. I also played a bit of Path of Exile, which I also think is plenty superior to Diablo 3 in everything but graphics for those who want the online persistence. Torchlight 2 is on our short list to play when we are done with Diablo 3. -- My domain - Nightfall.net |
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