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Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB
Reviews:
·Shaw

[AB] How Far would Shaw go with fiber

Hey everyone,

Im looking at a rural property roughly 4km for a shaw serviced area. Would shaw be willing to connect the property up and also what would the cost be? Im looking at around 75k in the bank for this project...

If someone has another company or a site i can get more information from PM it to me.

Thanks


stolen

join:2004-04-12
Calgary, AB
kudos:2

If you're talking business internet only, they should be able to do that (costs would be the only question), but if you're looking for residential services (TV, internet, phone) that might be harder.

I remember one of my previous employers trying to get coax services to his bay in a business park (in Calgary, not far from shaw's North office at the time) and it was going to cost in the 10's of thousands to get hooked up. Never did happen.

If you're looking for the latter: »www.shaw.ca/business/builders/
(even if you're not a new development, I imagine it would be the same people that you need to talk to).

If the former:
»www.shaw.ca/Business/Data-Services/


Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB

Yeah I know its not going to be cheap.
I was hoping to come in around $10k/km maybe less I dont know there fiber map.

I was just poking around to see if anyone had spoken to shaw about doing this recently.


kevinds

join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:1

»shawbusinesssolutions.ca/sbs/con···tion.jsp

Might be who you need to talk to, but for residental service, after you paying for the installation, try talking to Corbin, he might know who you need to talk to
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Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB
reply to Doonz

Yeah im just trying to find out all i can cause i dont want to buy the land only to find out i cant have the internet that i would need.


kevinds

join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:1

4km could do it wirelessly yourself too, that is a fairly short distance

Shaw modem connected to wireless bridge in town, and then other end at your place
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Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB

I know of people around that have tried that... the provider forget who.... theyve had nothing but grief


kevinds

join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:1

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Not for other people, just yourself.

Point-to-Point, not Point-to-Many

Pair of AN-80i's for example


rotohoto

join:2012-03-31
canada
kudos:1
reply to Doonz

You're probably thinking of Terego... I have also only heard bad things about them.

Are you looking for someone to install a 4km stretch of dark fiber for you (ie, to connect two sites) or are you looking for fiber internet service to a specific location... which just happens to be 4km from a Shaw serviced area?


kevinds

join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:1

Reading this, it sounds like the latter, he is looking at buying a property 4km from a Shaw serviced location, and wants service?
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Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB
Reviews:
·Shaw
reply to rotohoto

said by rotohoto:

You're probably thinking of Terego... I have also only heard bad things about them.

Are you looking for someone to install a 4km stretch of dark fiber for you (ie, to connect two sites) or are you looking for fiber internet service to a specific location... which just happens to be 4km from a Shaw serviced area?

Fiber internet to a location.

Kevin I never thought of Point to Point to be honest...

kevinds

join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:1

I've done it for locations a lot further than 4km LOL

If you are considering it, try and get 3.5 GHz... No matter the frequency, it takes a bit of planning/work to get setup.

Just another option, if you want internet only, TV service using that method woud take just a tad bit more work
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Yes, I am not employed and looking for IT work. Have passport, will travel.


Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB
Reviews:
·Shaw

said by kevinds:

I've done it for locations a lot further than 4km LOL

If you are considering it, try and get 3.5 GHz... No matter the frequency, it takes a bit of planning/work to get setup.

Just another option, if you want internet only, TV service using that method woud take just a tad bit more work

My question is where would I put the end point in town? I have no idea where I could do it...

kevinds

join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:1

Yeah, that is usually the hardest part...


Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB

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Just to update this thread. i have been in contact with shaw regarding this. I will post what I can when I can.

Thank you everyone


Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB
reply to Doonz

Haha,

Well I got a guestimate back for this project.....

1.15 Million for copper
1.2-1.4 million for fiber

Yeah thats not gonna happen. LOL



rustydusty

join:2009-09-29
Red Deer, AB
reply to Doonz

Running the line isn't hard, it's convincing someone to terminate on either end. They usually won't as you took all the gravy money away from them by pulling the line yourself.


Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB

Well, The materials are under 100k. BUt laying the line underground seems to be the high cost.


corbin

join:2013-09-13

A lot of legal right of way issues


Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB
Reviews:
·Shaw

said by corbin:

A lot of legal right of way issues

Corbin,

I'm gonna assume that you may have seen the email come through.

What right of way issues? Is shaw not able to lay lines in the utility corridors? Or are you talking about from the plant site? Im not sure where the plant site is if its in Beaumont or Nisku where the line would have to be run from.

I was hoping that Shaw woulda been able to tap into the east edge of beaumont follow TWP 505 east which has power gas and phone ran in the ditch already.

If you know more could you elaborate in here?

corbin

join:2013-09-13

Ah no, these sorts of these definitely don't cross my desk :P.

I know nothing Jon Snow, nothing.


Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB

Too bad.



The E
Please allow me to retort
Premium
join:2002-05-26
Burnaby, BC
reply to Doonz

4 km of line is no small job. It's not just running some coax or fiber in a trench and calling it a day. 4km is a major extension of the plant, requiring many other pieces of equipment to make it work.

Right of way issues can certainly be a factor as Shaw typically leases space from a third party, and in some cases requires that third party to pull the lines.
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Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB
Reviews:
·Shaw

said by The E:

...

Yeah but material is only 10% of cost. Paying a directional driller is not 800k for 4miles.

I know what the actual cost is of fiber so thats a non issue. Im trying to figure out where the plant location is.

spock

join:2012-07-08
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL

I think the job would beyond just connecting a 4km fiber up to the existing plant. Is there dark fiber or spare wavelengths in a dwdm band back to the headend. Sounds like your farm is far from town? The radio point-to-point sounds like the best solution, especially with the 75k budget.