 pandoraPremium join:2001-06-01 Outland kudos:1 | reply to Goldheart
What is your iLvl?? A thread with a similar title, will likely be the final thread on most WoW forums long after the game has died. Obsession with iLvl by some WoW players is amazing. -- Congress could mess up a one piece jigsaw puzzle. |
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 | said by pandora:A thread with a similar title, will likely be the final thread on most WoW forums long after the game has died. Obsession with iLvl by some WoW players is amazing.
Mainly because it is the nature of the beast. In very few circumstances are lower ilevel gear better than higher ilevel gear. I can think of some trinket procs and some "filler" epics without gem slots which buck the trend but usually higher ilevel = better stats = better performance. |
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 Noiche join:2013-06-17 Panama City, FL | Honestly, outside of organized raiding, higher ilevels = worse performance nowadays, cause for some reason, people feel like they can slack off on the mechanics of the fight cause they have more deeps, or more survivability, or a bigger epeen, or whatever the excuse of the hour is. |
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 | said by Noiche:Honestly, outside of organized raiding, higher ilevels = worse performance nowadays, cause for some reason, people feel like they can slack off on the mechanics of the fight cause they have more deeps, or more survivability, or a bigger epeen, or whatever the excuse of the hour is.
I don't find that at all. Usually it's the higher geared players who carry the lesser geared people. The AFK'rs/Spongers tend to be poorly geared.
I've only had one issue with high geared players and that was a few months ago on Horridon LFR when a group of 5 of them were partnered with us. The first boss went down fast, it was sweet but they thought they could faceroll Horridon too. Obviously they all went all out on Horridon himself whilst ignoring the adds. With very little DPS on the adds (the 5 of them were on Horridon literally the whole time) they swamped us all but the healers kept us up. However as soon as the 5 DPS forced Horridon to spawn the Warlord there was no way we were going to do it as the 5 still refused to hit anything other than Horridon. We wiped, and the 5 of them gave the rest of us grief which prompted me to stroke there egos a bit before saying BUT we arn't as geared as you, the healers cannot keep up with you, 1 or 2 of you are going to have to help with the adds/warlord if you want to get through it, and if you'd done it the correct way in the first place, we'd be starting the council about now. It shut them up oddly and they did behave after that. |
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | guess they thought they were better than they were. I heard about one LFR horridon where a few stayed on him, but he died by the 2nd door. -- semper idem 1KTzRMxN1a2ATrtAAvbmEnMBoY3E2kHtyv |
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 | The tactic works in theory. The issue is the adds will still spawn, as will the Warlord and if you don't have a geared enough tank or healer to deal with the increased damage from ignoring them then it's game over. I.e. if the 5 heroic geared players are all DPS, you're screwed. |
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | If he dies during the 2nd door then you won't have many adds yet. then just MD and TOTT some to the nuts -- semper idem 1KTzRMxN1a2ATrtAAvbmEnMBoY3E2kHtyv |
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 Noiche join:2013-06-17 Panama City, FL | Those are the "elite" players that I run into the most cat, and exactly what I was talking about. I understand the LFR system, but I believe in removing some mechanics (instead of reduced damage) and simplifing the rest, they made it a cest pool for people the fall asleep on their keyboard for the kill. This is mainly why I want to stick to organized normal/heroic raiding, as even though that is still present, and sometimes even more so, the RL is uaully skilled/experienced enough to foot stomp their epeen into the nether and force them to act right. Either way, it makes for some hilarious rage moments...
Pure example, look up Rigg from BL on youtube and watch him rage at a priest that sucked donkey d*ck in a raid. It's dam hilarious. Think it's titled "Rigg rages at Priest" or something along those lines.
Edit: Reply fail on my part. |
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 Carpie join:2012-10-19 united state kudos:2 | reply to Goldheart
Re: [MoP] What is your new gear/iLvl so far for patch 5.4? Well where the LFR experiences have abused me the last two weeks, the Celestials made up for it last night for my Priest on Ravencrest. Last week they dropped the tier gloves for me and last night they dropped the legs. Hello two piece bonus! -- Absolution -- MSV: 6/6 0/6H -- HoF: 4/6 -- ToES: 4/4 -- ToT: 12/12 -- SoO: 4/14F 2/14 Pride and Ego -- MSV: 6/6 1/6H -- HoF: 6/6 -- ToES: 4/4 -- ToT: 11/12 -- SoO: 3/14F */14 |
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 Noiche join:2013-06-17 Panama City, FL | Big grats Carpie. I'm sure that was a hefty boost to your character. |
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | reply to Carpie
Sweet, you must be the new loot monger. the RNG gods have frowned on me.
toss me a pst and I'll get you the leg enchant. |
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Sitting at 512 here. I've only logged on a couple of times in the last week to do scenarios and random heroics. GTA V has been sucking up my gaming time as of late. I haven't been in or studied SoO at all yet. -- KI6RIT |
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Shaman is now at 509 after 2x 528 drops (upgraded the necklace x 2). Still got wing 2 to do, but I'm not sitting about for a wipefest. |
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 Goldheart join:2002-06-09 Ballston Spa, NY kudos:1 | reply to Goldheart
OK some new upgrades. So far this is what I have:
Head - Hood of the Thousandfold Hells at 522:
»www.wowhead.com/item=95326/hood-···ld-hells
Neck - Amulet of the Titanorex at 530:
»www.wowhead.com/item=95181/amule···itanorex
Shoulder - Mantle of the Thousandfold Hells at 526:
»www.wowhead.com/item=95329/mantl···ld-hells
Back - Xing-Ho, Breath of Yu'lon at 608:
»www.wowhead.com/item=102246/xing···of-yulon
Chest - Zandalari Robes of the Final Rite at 530:
»www.wowhead.com/item=94761
Wrist - Troll-Burner Bracers at 530:
»www.wowhead.com/item=95136/troll···-bracers
Hands - Gloves of the Horned Nightmare at 553:
»www.wowhead.com/item=99096/glove···ightmare
Waist - Belt of the Night Skt at 553:
»www.wowhead.com/item=98612/belt-···ight-sky
Legs - Leggings of the Horned Nightmare at 557:
»www.wowhead.com/item=99098/leggi···ightmare
Feet - Sandals of Arcane Fury at 543:
»www.wowhead.com/item=96450
Ring 1 - Signet of the Shado-Pan Assault at 530:
»www.wowhead.com/item=95138/signe···-assault
Ring 2 - Jin'rokh's Dreamshard at 530:
»www.wowhead.com/item=94738/jinro···eamshard
Trinket 1 - Volatile Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault at 530:
»www.wowhead.com/item=94510/volat···-assault
Trinket 2 - Wushoolay's Final Choice at 530:
»www.wowhead.com/item=94513
2H Weapon - Gaze of Arrogance at 548:
»www.wowhead.com/item=104728
That gives me two tier piece sets with 2 pieces each and the legendary cloak and an average ilvl of 543.
Hopfully I will get a chance to try all these upgrades out 
**Edit - forgot weapon |
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | I'll have my belt of the night sky tonight, along with applying a double upgrade. -- semper idem 1KTzRMxN1a2ATrtAAvbmEnMBoY3E2kHtyv |
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said by cat666:Still got wing 2 to do, but I'm not sitting about for a wipefest. Well after the 10 min healer queue was the full 10 mins I still zoned in on boss #4 but this time had to kill the trash before Nazgrim. Even this was very very messy.
One of the tanks actually explained tactics without prompting which was nice, although I already knew them, I know others don't.
Wiped at 67% as people simply didn't get what was going on and the group fell apart. I still have issues on these fights as DBM tells me to dispel, and as a shaman I can interupt too, yet I never can work out which add to target and deal with in time. The Fallen Protectors had boss frames for the adds, but without them I don't have hope. Any ideas? |
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 s1deoutGeek4LifePremium join:2003-12-10 Troy, OH kudos:2 | reply to Goldheart
my ilvl is 534 equipped right now. I picked up the mace from SoO and the bracers as well last nite off the 1st boss.
I still have a crappy 489 shield from 1st tier of MoP that is holding my ilvl back.
WTB a friggin shield for god's sake Blizz!!! Wasted a ton of time in LFR's along with bonus rolls and no shield yet!!! |
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | reply to DarkLogix
542 now (got my crafted belt with double upgrade.) Come on blizz I need 2 more items or I'll hit the hard cap. -- semper idem 1KTzRMxN1a2ATrtAAvbmEnMBoY3E2kHtyv |
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 Carpie join:2012-10-19 united state kudos:2 | reply to Goldheart
My two mains, Desecration (sPriest) and Demencia (Aff lock) are both tied at 531 at this point. |
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