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eyetack

join:2002-09-05
Leicester, MA

[HSI] So ... how about that IPv6?

When I last worked at Charter, IPv6 was addressed on all the interfaces on the backbone and IGPs were getting prepared. I'm expecting that well over 500 days later this ought to be getting closer to the end user.

So where is it, and when can I expect to get it?



BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness

»www.myaccount.charter.com/custom···eID=2665



DrDrew
So that others may surf.

join:2009-01-28
SoCal
kudos:10
reply to eyetack

I've been using off and on (when I feel like configuring my router to use it) for the last year.

Occasionally my router hangs on IPv6 routing and I have to reboot it. Other than some pretty traceroutes and different addressing, nobody else in my house notices it until my router hangs on it.
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KoRnGtL15
Premium
join:2007-01-04
Grants Pass, OR

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reply to eyetack

Anyone know how to configure this for a Linksys E4200 v1 using stock firmware? I am using the latest version 1.0.05


whoaru99

join:2003-12-17
reply to eyetack

I'm currently using IPv6 with the config/settings in the link BF69 provided. Seems to work OK, but IPv4 vs. IPv6 speed tests are varied...some faster, some about the same, some slower.



lineofsight

join:2003-01-03
East Saint Louis, IL
reply to eyetack

My WNDR3700, when IPv6 is set to autoconfig, says it is using 6to4. the test sites say it is working as IPv6. Other than that, I can't tell any differences.



BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness

I have a Netgear WNDR3400 and it really doesn't do IPv6 because Charter users 6rd which the Netgear doesn't support.


whoaru99

join:2003-12-17

FWIW, the router I'm using is D-Link DIR-655.


brad

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

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reply to eyetack

The OP is specifically asking about native dual-stack service, not 6RD, 6to4, Teredo or any other transition mechanism. It's about time Charter starts catching up with Comcast and TWC.



DrDrew
So that others may surf.

join:2009-01-28
SoCal
kudos:10

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said by brad:

The OP is specifically asking about native dual-stack service, not 6RD, 6to4, Teredo or any other transition mechanism. It's about time Charter starts catching up with Comcast and TWC.

I have TWC in a different location and no IPv6 at all from them. A few people who've reported in the TWC forum getting it recently lost it a week later...

Charter seems further along. Being that most Charter customers have been able to use IPv6 for the last year with a little configuration.
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whoaru99

join:2003-12-17
reply to brad

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said by brad:

The OP is specifically asking about native dual-stack service, not 6RD, 6to4, Teredo or any other transition mechanism. It's about time Charter starts catching up with Comcast and TWC.

You tell me what it means, because I don't fully understand it all.

brad

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to DrDrew

said by DrDrew:

I have TWC in a different location and no IPv6 at all from them. A few people who've reported in the TWC forum getting it recently lost it a week later...

Charter seems further along.

LOL. Nothing is further along than having production native dual-stack in a number of cities? Oookkk.

brad

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to whoaru99

said by whoaru99:

You tell me what it means, because I don't fully understand it all.

You said you followed the link provided by BF69; that is using 6RD.


DrDrew
So that others may surf.

join:2009-01-28
SoCal
kudos:10

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reply to brad

said by brad:

LOL. Nothing is further along than having production native dual-stack in a number of cities? Oookkk.

What cities does TWC have native IPv6 active in? Many of the users who noticed having it few weeks ago have since lost it.

BTW, the OP never mentioned Native dual-stack IPv6, but you seem to like trolling forums, jumping in discussions, and specifying that.
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whoaru99

join:2003-12-17
reply to brad

Yeah, I get that. What about the test results part that says "OK" for the dual stack stuff you mentioned?

Doesn't that mean that's what it'll do/use, when available?


brad

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

said by whoaru99:

Yeah, I get that. What about the test results part that says "OK" for the dual stack stuff you mentioned?

Doesn't that mean that's what it'll do/use, when available?

Nothing about the test results will indicate native service.

No, you would have to switch your router to utilize DHCPv6/DHCPv6-PD when it is available via Charter.

whoaru99

join:2003-12-17

If I didn't turn on IPv6 and am not using it, regardless it being via 6RD (whatever that actually means), why does IP Config show IPv6 addresses for my WAN side?


brad

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

said by whoaru99:

If I didn't turn on IPv6 and am not using it, regardless it being via 6RD (whatever that actually means), why does IP Config show IPv6 addresses for my WAN side?

Which version of Windows are you using?

whoaru99

join:2003-12-17

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W7-64

Just to be clear, Charter/WAN side, that is, shows IPv6.

My LAN still is the plain old 192.168.xxx.xxx in IP Config, yet the adapter properties in the computer shows both IPv4 and IPv6 internet connectivity, with addresses for both.


brad

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

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reply to DrDrew

said by DrDrew:

What cities does TWC have native IPv6 active in? Many of the users who noticed having it few weeks ago have since lost it.

BTW, the OP never mentioned Native dual-stack IPv6, but you seem to like trolling forums, jumping in discussions, and specifying that.

Parts of LA/Anaheim, Rochester, NYC (Brooklyn, Queens). 2 users is not many. That still doesn't change the fact that they're working on it and so far I've seen zero indication Charter has done anything at all.

He didn't have to specifically say that. He was talking about native service across their backbone and said about v6 reaching the customer natively. I'm not trolling anything. That's what these threads and discussions are about. So keeping discussions on topic is now called trolling? awesome.

brad

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to whoaru99

said by whoaru99:

W7-64

Just to be clear, Charter/WAN side, that is, shows IPv6.

My LAN still is the plain old 192.168.xxx.xxx in IP Config, yet the adapter properties in the computer shows both IPv4 and IPv6 internet connectivity, with addresses for both.

Except your post isn't clear and this confuses the matters more. Are you using a router or a Windows system directly connected to a modem? Post a screenshot of the details dialog box.

whoaru99

join:2003-12-17

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Using a router.

Since I don't know much about what that IPv6 might say I obscured some. Dunno that it really matters one way or the other.

brad

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to whoaru99

said by whoaru99:

If I didn't turn on IPv6 and am not using it, regardless it being via 6RD (whatever that actually means), why does IP Config show IPv6 addresses for my WAN side?

Newer versions of Windows you do not have to turn it on. It is enabled by default. As in Windows Vista and newer. You don't have to go out of your way to utilize it per se. Apps will just use it if its enabled. Looking at your screenshot it looks like your router has been configured. You said in your other post you have followed the link provided above so I take it you configured the router with 6RD.

whoaru99

join:2003-12-17

Correct, 6RD, but by talk about native IPv6, it came across as somehow not really using IPv6. So, it's IPv6, or not?


brad

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

said by whoaru99:

Correct, 6RD, but by talk about native IPv6, it came across as somehow not really using IPv6. So, it's IPv6, or not?

No, that's not what it means. It's unsupported transition mechanism (6RD) versus supported full on production native dual-stack.

Trendecide

join:2010-05-21
Belleville, IL
reply to whoaru99

yes, 6rd is IPv6: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_rapid_deployment


brad

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

*whooosh*

MrFixit1

join:1999-11-26
Madison, WI

Well I will admit the whole IPv6 thing can be a little confusing

»tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5969 is really not to hard to understand , and gives a good picture of what 6RD is .

Side question for you brad , If full IPv6 is implemented , have you figured out how to maintain any privacy on the net ?


brad

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

said by MrFixit1:

have you figured out how to maintain any privacy on the net ?

Do you honestly think you have privacy with IPv4? The address family won't make a difference.

MrFixit1

join:1999-11-26
Madison, WI

Perhaps I should not have said " privacy " .
Perhaps this is closer to what I am thinking .
Currently I am running a router with NAT . This makes it hard for anyone on the outside to determine what is on the LAN side .
I may very well be wrong , but my understanding is that with full IPv6 , every device will have it's own routeable IP address . If this is the case , how do I " hide " devices on my LAN that should not be public , but still need WAN access ?
Not talking about the " fake " IPv6 currently in use , but the full bore , native IPv6 .