JoelC707Premium
join:2002-07-09
West Point, GA
kudos:5
1 recommendation | reply to MrFixit1
Re: [HSI] So ... how about that IPv6? You provide that security through a proper firewall either on the router or PC itself or both. NAT is basically a false sense of security as it provides that "security" through obscurity. If you MUST, you can technically use NAT with IPv6 but don't assume that NAT alone will provide you any protections, and worse it breaks end-to-end connectivity. One of the points of IPv6 is so that there are enough addresses that NAT can go the way of the dodo bird. |
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brad
join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
1 recommendation | reply to MrFixit1
What is it you think you're "fixing" by hiding what is on your internal network? You know when you "hide" the devices on the inside you're still being tracked on the Net anyway? That does not afford you any real "privacy". You think it is doing something useful but it is not. |
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said by JoelC707:You provide that security through a proper firewall either on the router or PC itself or both. Correct! If you're using an Asus router, be sure to checkout Merlin's firmware which includes IPv6 firewall that is absent from the default firmware. |
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brad
join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
1 recommendation | reply to JoelC707
said by JoelC707:You provide that security through a proper firewall either on the router or PC itself or both. NAT is basically a false sense of security as it provides that "security" through obscurity. If you MUST, you can technically use NAT with IPv6 but don't assume that NAT alone will provide you any protections, and worse it breaks end-to-end connectivity. One of the points of IPv6 is so that there are enough addresses that NAT can go the way of the dodo bird.
He said privacy not security. Two completely different issues. |
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JoelC707Premium
join:2002-07-09
West Point, GA
kudos:5
1 recommendation | To some privacy and security are the same thing. I know they're not and you know they're not, and maybe MrFixit1  knows they're not, but that doesn't stop people from confusing the two and assuming NAT gives them something it doesn't.
What "privacy" do you get with NAT anyway? Sure you don't know what the local computer is but who cares? Why does it matter if people know whether I'm using ::0001 or ::0110 or ::abcd? You're still uniquely identifiable online no matter what address family you have or whether you use NAT or not. |
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brad
join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
1 recommendation | said by JoelC707:What "privacy" do you get with NAT anyway? Sure you don't know what the local computer is but who cares? Why does it matter if people know whether I'm using ::0001 or ::0110 or ::abcd? You're still uniquely identifiable online no matter what address family you have or whether you use NAT or not.
Way too many of the tin foil hat people don't bother doing anything about their browser where there are quite a few mechanisms for tracking people online and even then the majority of the avg joes that make an attempt don't go far enough so they're still trackable. If you did disable enough of the features and use the proper browser the experience is next to useless because the browser is so crippled. |
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Just tried my modem directly connected to my laptop, still no IPv6 here in the Fort Worth market.
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Tarball
join:2006-06-09
Saint Louis, MO
2 recommendations | said by TheTechGuru:Just tried my modem directly connected to my laptop, still no IPv6 here in the Fort Worth market.
I don't think they're doing native IPv6 anywhere yet. Which is kind of weird because I've been using their 6rd tunnel for a couple of years and it works great. They definitely have the dual-stack backbone in place, now it's just a matter of them getting IPv6 running over their cable equipment. |
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