 Carpie
join:2012-10-19
united state
kudos:2 | Siege of Orgrimmar World First race 10/14 after 2 The below article was written on Wednesday, two days ago. Currently wowprogress shows five 25m guilds at 11/14H and four at 10/14H. In 10m, there are four listed as 10/14H.
At the end of last week, the first week for Normals, I had counted 220+ 10m guilds having finished 14/14. That seemed pretty amazing to me. So the question is... is SoO easier than some of the previous raid tiers? Or do you think that more people were just better prepared when stepping into Normals for the first week?
If you look back to the last world first race, Lei Shen was vanquished to riotous acclaim just before the weekly reset by top EU guild, and eventual World First race winners Method. Thanks to the EU's raid reset being one day later, this Tuesday night victory gave them an extra 30 attempts on Ra-Den. The EU has always received the patch a day after the US, meaning the top EU guilds start the race a day behind their US counterparts. It's never usually a problem.
But this time around, those of us who are fans of the EU teams were a little worried. Top US guild Blood Legion went 9/14 in around twelve hours, with the tenth boss dropping late last night on Pacific time. This is incredibly fast, particularly compared to the last race, which as we mentioned above, took almost a week. Now, at the time of writing, Blood Legion stands at 10/14, with Method and Exorsus at 9/14. Among the 10-man competitors, Avast stand at 8/14, and Paragon are at 7/14 with Hordlinge and Sanitas at 6/14.
So what's going on? Was there just not enough time left for Heroic tuning? Are the fights too easy? Or is the skill gap between these top guilds and the "normal" heroic raider so great that the fights have to be easier? Many Blizzard representatives have mentioned lately that they were looking for a smooth ramp-up, without brick wall bosses like Dark Animus, so maybe this is a result of that. What's your take on it?
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Absolution -- MSV: 6/6 0/6H -- HoF: 4/6 -- ToES: 4/4 -- ToT: 12/12 -- SoO: 4/14F 1/14
Pride and Ego -- MSV: 6/6 1/6H -- HoF: 6/6 -- ToES: 4/4 -- ToT: 11/12 -- SoO: 3/14F */14 |
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| I think it's a case of SoO having no really troublesome brick wall mechanics. Even the trickier bosses are doable if everyone does what they are meant to do, and in top raiding guilds, everyone does.
Personally I prefer it this way. Some of you guys posts about being stuck on Horridon and Dark Animus for weeks on end were really disheartening, and I wasn't even with you. I can only imagine the disappointment getting stuck there week and week. That said you also don't want every semi-decent guild under the sun clearing normal week 1 as many of them will never ever be able to make the step up to heroic.
Currently SoO seems to be balanced so that the elite will progress fast, whilst the normal people will progress at a steady rate, which is ideal. |
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 JBStay Gold
join:2009-05-14
kudos:1 | reply to Carpie
But Mom, I don't want to move out of the basement! |
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Carpie
join:2012-10-19
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kudos:2 | reply to cat666
said by cat666:Currently SoO seems to be balanced so that the elite will progress fast, whilst the normal people will progress at a steady rate, which is ideal. I agree with this. I'll say "T15 heroicly equipped" in place of elite, because I think that is more the case. If you were able to clear, or at least get strong progress through, ToT heroics, I think you are probably in a very good place to get through normals pretty fast. And we are seeing that.
What I especially like though is that while people's comments have been that "SoO is a breeze" initially, at the end the tune starts to change a bit. And at Garrosh it seems to be a whole different song. Everyone seems to be agreed that Garrosh is quite a step up and I hope that that is the case in heroics too. My guess is that there will definitely be people 13/14 by the end of the weekend, but I'm really hoping no one is cleared within the 1st week.
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Absolution -- MSV: 6/6 0/6H -- HoF: 4/6 -- ToES: 4/4 -- ToT: 12/12 -- SoO: 4/14F 1/14
Pride and Ego -- MSV: 6/6 1/6H -- HoF: 6/6 -- ToES: 4/4 -- ToT: 11/12 -- SoO: 3/14F */14 |
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Carpie
join:2012-10-19
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kudos:2 | reply to JB
said by JB:But Mom, I don't want to move out of the basement!
That's pretty much true, right? They say these leading heroic guilds raid 14-16 hours a day every day during the release week. So they must be taking the week off from school/work. ...Which I think is pretty easily done, but what if it goes into week two? All of a sudden their real life schedule might become an impediment to progress. Can't stay in the basement forever...
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Absolution -- MSV: 6/6 0/6H -- HoF: 4/6 -- ToES: 4/4 -- ToT: 12/12 -- SoO: 4/14F 1/14
Pride and Ego -- MSV: 6/6 1/6H -- HoF: 6/6 -- ToES: 4/4 -- ToT: 11/12 -- SoO: 3/14F */14 |
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3 | Some of the Elite are paid to play.
Some like "Dream Paragon" have sponsors and are in countries where they might not need to work. (I know some EU people I've talked to in the past that said if they quit their job they wouldn't see a pay decrease) (btw the last one that said that was terribad at his job and was shown the door but very very politely but also was a C level exec)
So some just don't have the whole job limit on them.
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| In the UK we have a culture of benefits sadly. You get money from the government so easily that lots of people simply fake illness, or stay off work to get job seekers allowance. Some jobs even pay worse than the allowance as you get taxed on your wages but not your benefits!
I know a lad who hasn't done an honest days pay in his life. He's done a few cash in hand jobs but always continued to claim job seekers allowance or incapacity benefit (depression is easy to fake). All he does is stay at home, play video games and smoke weed. |
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DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium
join:2008-10-23
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kudos:3 | said by cat666:In the UK we have a culture of benefits sadly. You get money from the government so easily that lots of people simply fake illness, or stay off work to get job seekers allowance. Some jobs even pay worse than the allowance as you get taxed on your wages but not your benefits!
I know a lad who hasn't done an honest days pay in his life. He's done a few cash in hand jobs but always continued to claim job seekers allowance or incapacity benefit (depression is easy to fake). All he does is stay at home, play video games and smoke weed.
I hear about people that do that here too.
Though the amount isn't anywhere near what that C level person claimed he'd make if he quit.
I've heard of people in the US on welfare that effectively make $40,000 a year.
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Carpie
join:2012-10-19
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kudos:2 | Then factor in all the educational monies that their six kids get to take advantage of... |
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OMG, so I did a SoO LFR yesterday and zoned in on a huge robot scorpion. That boss was pretty fun. We one shotted it and I got some gold. The next thing, I think it was a boss duo, after we cleared trash in the main floor in Org (btw, I almost went to the AH for some reason) there was all sorts of purple tornados and green slimes popping up. Dude! It was awesome. I was top damage on my warlock. I got to use the Flames of Xoroth the whole time. That means my Immolate and Incinerate damage to all hostiles within like 10 yds of my target but each time I use it, it uses an Ember. Lucky for me, the fight constantly spawns like 10 green slimes at a time throughout the fight so I can maintain 4 embers all the time.
BOOM! #1 damage done like a boss with only ilvl 508 and no legendary cloak like 8 other dpsers in the LFR. hahaha day sum bichez.
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Carpie
join:2012-10-19
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kudos:2 | Nice! I figured there must be people out there that enjoyed that fight enough to balance out my loathing for it. :P |
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| I don't think my enjoyment will last another attempt on it though. It was getting pretty hecktick. We ended up wiping on that. Turns out both tanks were DKs in dps gear and not even gemmed or enchanted dps gear. They'd keep linking their heroic kills on HoF so they thought they were boss enough to beast on through LFR SoO like that.
I was the last man standing on that fight sniping oozes and tapping that hawt female orc caster boss.
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