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Julie7

join:2009-09-26
US

TIP: Google blocking searches

Every once in a while Google yells at me (requests a captcha) because of the shared IP, before it will let me complete a search. Today, it started blocking my searches *without* a captcha...no way to Google search.

I have Firefox set to do a Google search for words that I type in the URL bar. To solve the "sorry, we won't do that search" problem, I went to about:config, searched for Keyword.URL, and added changed it to https rather than just http. The searches go through with no problem.

(FYI, right now this is ALSO happening if I simply go to »www.google.com and do a search; using https solves the problem.)

Just thought I'd pass that along in case someone else has the same problem, and went searching for it.



gwalk
Premium
join:2005-07-27
West Mich.

Julie7
You don't say which system you have (9000, Gen4) however have you tried going into SCC and toggling Web Acceleration to "Off" for that site ?


Julie7

join:2009-09-26
US

I have Gen4; I had the same problem occasionally with my 7000/Pro account up until last June, before I got the Gen4, and the same thing worked, so I didn't think it was pertinent to mention the system.

Essentially by using HTTPS you ARE toggling Web Acceleration off for that site, which is why it works. For me, it was just much easier just to edit it once in Firefox, then to turn it off whenever I did a search. I'm online for 14 hours a day most days - I work from home - and sometimes will do 100 Google searches, occasionally more, over the course of a given day.

It was simpler for me to just change it in Firefox and not have to think about it again, but your solution - going to SCC when Google is doing this and you need to search, and turning it off - would work, too.



dbirdman
Premium,MVM
join:2003-07-07
usa
kudos:5
reply to Julie7

I am not aware that it is possible anymore to use http with Google. Trying to do so will always cause a redirect to https.
--
Author of hnFAP-Alert, PC-OPI and DSSatTool traveling in a 2004 Blue Bird M380


Wyngs

join:2010-02-20
Coos Bay, OR
reply to Julie7

I'm on the 9000 and occassionally get them from Google and You Tube. The latter I hardly visit any more, so it's a surprise when they tell me my IP has been associated with a large number of requests.


laserfan

join:2005-01-14
Blanco, TX
reply to Julie7

I still have Google available among my FF search options, but prefer DuckDuckGo and Bing these days, knowing how hard Google is working to analyze my behavior!


Julie7

join:2009-09-26
US
reply to dbirdman

said by dbirdman:

I am not aware that it is possible anymore to use http with Google. Trying to do so will always cause a redirect to https.

I think it depends. We run our company email through Google and use a bunch of apps, and at some point there was a checkbox to either force people to use HTTPS or not, and I unchecked that. TBH, I generally use HTTPS anyway, for Google apps, and I almost never search from the search page - always through my URL bar. The URL bar was set in FF to ». I changed it to https and the problem went away.

It may somewhat depend on the system, as well, because I was working on a friend's computer here yesterday (Vista - ack! - and IE9, FF3.6 (upgraded to 24) who does NOT have a Google account, and immediately hit the same problem on Google when going to the Google Search on her computer to grab a new version of FF...it stayed HTTP, I got the error, I changed to HTTPS and didn't.

*shrug*

Julie7

join:2009-09-26
US
reply to laserfan

said by laserfan:

...knowing how hard Google is working to analyze my behavior!

lol. They don't have to work too hard to analyze me. As a company, we use Google docs extensively, Google Calendar, Google Adwords, Google Analytics and all of our websites run their email through Google. Can't hide.

(Facebook bothers me more than Google!)

Julie7

join:2009-09-26
US
reply to laserfan

said by laserfan:

I still have Google available among my FF search options

Also, I don't have any search bars in my browser...I do it all from the URL bar. Maybe that's the difference.


dbirdman
Premium,MVM
join:2003-07-07
usa
kudos:5
reply to Julie7

I still think everything you are seeing is because it truly is impossible to search on Google with http anymore. Any client, any user, from any where. The problem appears to be arising because something is not allowing your browser to redirect.

I have dozens of computers in multiple locations, and on any one of them if I type in www.google.com or »www.google.com or google.com or »google.com it is immediately redirected to https.

When they first started this it was only for logged in searches, and those had an option in tools to still do http. First the option went away, then anonymous searches also became https.

Google is at the forefront of a movement to make virtually the entire internet https for privacy reasons.

I prefer to make it optional. If a customer comes to my ecommerce site using https then I let them stay secure on every page. If they come http then I only force them to https in the account or checkout process.
--
Author of hnFAP-Alert, PC-OPI and DSSatTool traveling in a 2004 Blue Bird M380


Julie7

join:2009-09-26
US

said by dbirdman:

Any client, any user, from any where.

All I can say is that yesterday I started having this problem, after using the HTTP setting for three years, since I first got this computer. (And never had the "no search/no captcha/no way/no how" problem in all of that time.)

I changed Firefox's Keyword.URL setting to HTTPS, and it went away. I changed it back to HTTP and it happened again. I changed it back to HTTPS and it fixed it. I worked on a friend's computer yesterday, went to HTTP: (likely in an older version of FF, definitely Vista) and got the error. I changed to HTTPS and the error went away.

Honestly, all I was trying to do was give people who run into this particular problem an option to solve it, if they were searching for the issue. I usually appreciate something like that if I'm running a search to solve a technical problem. I'm sort of regretting that I posted, now, so I think I'll leave this thread alone.

Maybe a mod should just delete the post.