 AnavSarcastic Llama? Naw, Just AcerbicPremium join:2001-07-16 Dartmouth, NS kudos:4 | reply to Paolo
Re: whos going to down load BBM for their iphone/android? thanks granite rock YUP GOOGLE DROPPED THe ball big time, I tried to download some and they all asked to install diff programs. Totally unacceptable. Where and how do we give google a blast of sheite??? |
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I reported about 5-6 fake apps aswell. I just checked the play store and seems there is no more fakes out there.
Maybe coming out soon!
I will be downlading, still have friends/family on Blackberry aswell. |
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not yet anyway 3:12 ATL time. |
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More fakes are appearing now, last time i checked this morning there was atleast 10, then it went down to about 5, just checked about 30 mins ago and i saw 2.
Just checked now, and i see 4! |
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| Yeah there's a bunch of different ones. Google needs to get their act together. They should be able to filter submissions by keywords. Anything with BBM and Blackberry should be reviewed by a real person and not published until it is. Then they can get the real app up on the store and not worry about any more fakes. |
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 elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium join:2006-08-30 HarperLand kudos:1 | reply to Hydraglass
I saw those this morning, too, no real bbm as of a few hours ago. |
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 elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium join:2006-08-30 HarperLand kudos:1 | reply to dirtyjeffer
Your non stop issues were with the Blackberry Server, it's far from intuitive and a pain in the ass to manage. |
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 PaoloMr. Wireless join:2004-05-29 canada | ok here is a question that i even asked the folks at black berry. Will i be able to use BBM on my I phone and my android simultainiously at the same time to chat with people while retaining one single pin?
I just got the app for the ios from the apple india app store, and im planning to sign in, i already got a bbid, can i down load it once it comes out to my android tab and sign in with the same bbid? will i not have douplicate pinns? -- Happiness is like peeing your pants... Everyone can see it, but only you can feel its Warmth!! |
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said by elwoodblues:Your non stop issues were with the Blackberry Server, it's far from intuitive and a pain in the ass to manage.
no, it was the device (the last 2 actually)...as i said, we'll see how the iPhone works in its place. |
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said by Paolo:ok here is a question that i even asked the folks at black berry. Will i be able to use BBM on my I phone and my android simultainiously at the same time to chat with people while retaining one single pin?
I just got the app for the ios from the apple india app store, and im planning to sign in, i already got a bbid, can i down load it once it comes out to my android tab and sign in with the same bbid? will i not have douplicate pinns?
I really hope that's the case.... it may become a deal breaker for me if the PIN can't handle multiple devices. From the blackberry site I can only find:
quote: Every BBM user has a unique PIN that maintains your privacy, so you don"t have to give out your phone number or email address to a new or casual contact.
Which doesn't really say yes or no to multiple devices. |
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I really wonder what happened.
The BBM twitter feed keep's posting whenever a new release is done for a region (India, UAE, Australia, etc) for the Iphone, but nothing further on the status of the Android release. The last communication was:
10:28 AM - 21 Sep 13 Thanks for your patience #Android users! Working hard to get you the real #BBM ASAP. We'll let you know when it's live. #BBM4ALL
It would be nice to get further details as to what happened or when to expect an update. Did BB not learn from their last system failure? They communicated nothing and p-o'ed alot of people! |
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Oh i think were close!
I dont see anymore fake app in the Play Store! |
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Kind of offtopic, but man, this is complete BS and I think to myself "what kind of tech do you call yourself" if you can't figure it out.
I run a GroupWise farm - so let's call a spade a spade, I'm in the fringe set of admins, with odd software that people wouldn't normally even be using, and I've been through BES 3, 4, and onto 5 and now have a 10 server (BDS and UDS) and frankly, it is simple to use and quite simple to set it up... assuming you have some skill. Day to day management is brain dead easy.
My ONLY complaint about BES is in both exchange and groupwise (I don't know about lotus) you had to be quite careful in the 3/4 days to make sure your patch level was in the support matrix or you could run into problems. With 5 this is true, but less so as it is much more lenient. You had to match your matrix of BES revision to the Exchange/GroupWise revision or you could have problems.
With 10, the whole bloody thing is activesync, and it doesn't even care if I am running Groupwise (Mobile Services) or Exchance. It's just activesync... behind the firewall in my case. |
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said by graniterock:said by Paolo:ok here is a question that i even asked the folks at black berry. Will i be able to use BBM on my I phone and my android simultainiously at the same time to chat with people while retaining one single pin?
I just got the app for the ios from the apple india app store, and im planning to sign in, i already got a bbid, can i down load it once it comes out to my android tab and sign in with the same bbid? will i not have douplicate pinns?
I really hope that's the case.... it may become a deal breaker for me if the PIN can't handle multiple devices. From the blackberry site I can only find: quote: Every BBM user has a unique PIN that maintains your privacy, so you don"t have to give out your phone number or email address to a new or casual contact.
Which doesn't really say yes or no to multiple devices. when i did it with the play book and my old black berry i had one single pin, even though the pin of my playbook was different than the pin they were bbming me on -- Happiness is like peeing your pants... Everyone can see it, but only you can feel its Warmth!! |
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| The OLD BBM was PIN to PIN only. The newer releases since OS5 if I recall correctly, have been via your BlackBerryID.
You can still PIN to PIN people from blackberry to blackberry or playbook to playbook, or add people to BBM by PIN or add them by email but in the back end, everything is "logged in" via your BlackBerryID. Device to device communication blackberry to blackberry or any PIN based device is still PIN to PIN, in the background. |
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said by zong:My ONLY complaint about BES is in both exchange and groupwise (I don't know about lotus) you had to be quite careful in the 3/4 days to make sure your patch level was in the support matrix or you could run into problems. With 5 this is true, but less so as it is much more lenient. You had to match your matrix of BES revision to the Exchange/GroupWise revision or you could have problems.
With 10, the whole bloody thing is activesync, and it doesn't even care if I am running Groupwise (Mobile Services) or Exchance. It's just activesync... behind the firewall in my case.
Yea, my complaints were similar to yours. BES was a twitchy beast where if a single XML file became corrupted, forget logging into web admin until you travelled through a byzantine log system to find out why. Or perhaps a latest patch will break your server for no known reason. Or maybe a carrier will have an issue that RIM can't support and the carrier can't support since it's their mistake but they blame RIM... until eventually they send you a new SIM.
I praise the ease of supporting ActiveSync but it's unfortunate the loss of functionality and performance that one had with BES. |
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4 edits | Activesync is ONLY for syncing mail and calendar and tasks.
BES 10 still talks to the device via a device to server in the background type VPN, there is no longer the need for the "Enterprise" service plan with the carrier. With BES 10 (BDS specifically) the device talks to BES, not activesync. The BES talks to activesync. Your device still gets in behind the firewall so you don't need to setup anything special. Works like it always did. So there is no loss in functionality.
BES 10 Universal Device Services, require a VPN on your device is you use an apple or android, assuming you're like us, and won't let activesync outside the firewall. Your device talks to UDS (have to setup an apple supplied certificate to get those devices to talk to it), and you have full wipe and security and can even blacklist a* devices based on if they are rooted or whatever you decide your policy is. In this case, your device is talking to activesync directly, but managed by UDS. You don't need to use a VPN if your activesync is outside the firewall, but frankly, that is asinine and not safe IMHO.
BES 10.1 mind you, now has "Secure Workspace" for apple and android which makes your device work like a regular BES10 device. No VPN client. Does not talk to activesync directly. The server talks to activesync for your device, just like BES10 BDS. Requires Activesync 12.1.
said by urbanriot:until eventually they send you a new SIM. This sounds like a carrier problem and some retard at the carrier, not BlackBerry. But again, you get what you pay for. Want to pay your techs no money, well, get useless idiots who don't know what they are doing. The carriers are notorious for this.
And to be fair, never had an XML issue like you mention. I've only been locked out of the server once, and that was when SQL took a crap and dropped a bunch of tables. And that was due to a bad patch by MS.
Edit: I did have one MAJOR issue with 10.0 BDS/UDS and MS RRAS on a 2008 R2 server. We had to install an MS RRAS server since the apple devices do not talk to my existing Novell IKEV2 VPN. So, when the BDS, UDS and RRAS was on the same server, the built in BES apache tomcat server would crap out when a VPN client connected and bind itself to whatever the new client VPN address is. So, trying to manage your BDS became a crapshoot as it kept changing IP's on you as apache kept rebinding itself. I got all the way up through blackberry engineering. There's a KB article thanks to us, and has made itself to best practices for install. You can now specify a bind IP address for the apache tomcat on the service load statement if you have all that stuff running on one box.
So to sum up, no loss of functionality in 5, 10, 10.1 and only a minor change the way stuff works for a* devices in 10.0 - but a* device support was pretty much a new thing and "Universal Device Services 10.0" was really the Mobile Fusion 6.x stuff, renumbered. |
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So apparently the leaked pre-release app is to be blamed for delay.
quote: Prior to launching BBM for Android, an unreleased version of the BBM for Android app was posted online. The interest and enthusiasm we have seen already more than 1.1 million active users in the first 8 hours without even launching the official Android app is incredible. Consequently, this unreleased version caused issues, which we have attempted to address throughout the day.
»blogs.blackberry.com/2013/09/bbm···79807723
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We know youre waiting. Pausing #BBM4All rollout to fix issues caused by unreleased BBM for Android app. Read more: http://t.co/rKCN4BNNXo — BBM (@BBM) September 22, 2013 ![]()
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This gets an award for sugar coating bad news as this article points out that on the plus side BBM got 1.1 million android subscribers without actually releasing an app. More to the point of the thread it does at least show there is still quite a bit of interest in BBM.
»crackberry.com/blackberry-added-···-release |
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Pathetic.
»mobilesyrup.com/2013/09/21/black···e-cause/
quote: BlackBerry ceases worldwide BBM rollout, cites earlier Android leak as the cause
Turns out there was an issue caused by an earlier leak of the app, one that brought an incomplete experience to users around the world. BlackBerry has since decided to cut off access to that version, leaving 1.1 million users without service until further notice. The company is also discontinuing the rollout on iOS until further notice, and will likely wait until it can bring a new Android version that lacks interplay with the leaked one.
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said by digitalfutur:That works for a time until the monopolized product becomes commoditized, after which sales will crater without continuous revolutionary (not evolutionary) products. Apple management is kidding themselves if they think the name alone will stop that from happening to their products. It already is happening. The fact that the Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field is also no longer in operation and Tim Cook being a far far nicer man than Lord Jobs doesn't help, either. |
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Will be anything IOS 6 or 7 or Android. |
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 RobIn Deo speramus.Premium join:2001-08-25 Kendall, FL kudos:3 | reply to Paolo
I will download it. Still got friends on BB. The new BB is pretty nice. |
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 AnavSarcastic Llama? Naw, Just AcerbicPremium join:2001-07-16 Dartmouth, NS kudos:4 | reply to Paolo
I imagine is not the delay in the downloadable app, its probably the pin access or distribution system and/or their server farms upgrades/changes. |
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 AnavSarcastic Llama? Naw, Just AcerbicPremium join:2001-07-16 Dartmouth, NS kudos:4 | reply to Paolo
Hmm I wonder if they will even do it now................. |
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One of the updates from BB i read today was something to the effect of a leaked version causing problems and them not expecting 1.1 million users, albeit the leaked version.
But my question is, why would you not expect 1.1 milliong users? if it was the official version, you would have had as many hits for the app. Which leads me to believe there were no way prepared for this launch.
What if this was all just a social experiment to show potential buyer Fairfax that there is still a lot of interest for BBM out there. Once the experiment ended and showed off interest, they pull it.
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1.1 million new accounts on a leaked version that was only available in select places (i.e. Crackberry.com)
If it was available in the app stores it would be much higher IMO -- "The hardest thing about any political campaign is how to win without proving that you are unworthy of winning." ~ Adlai E. Stevenson |
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