 djrobxPremium join:2000-05-31 Valencia, CA kudos:2
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[General] Re: Do you sleep with your windows open?void go_to_bed()
{
If (Outside.get_temperature() > 60 && Outside.get_temperature() < 70)
{
Window.Open()
} else {
Window.Close()
}
Sleep();
}
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said by IowaCowboy:Yes and I pay for it in terms of allergies. But if I close the windows all the electronics in my bedroom will heat it up to 90 degrees. And if I turn the A/C on with cool ambient temps it will frequently cycle where the compressor will cycle on for a minute and off for a few and then on again.
The exterior of our house is a dark stained brown wood siding and my bedroom is on the east side of the building so it heats up pretty early.
Another advantage is the bedrooms are second story so we can sleep with the burglar alarm on.
Humidity is an issue in this house. I think another strategy I'm going to undertake in my allergy war besides the Pergo in the bedroom is purchasing a dehumidifier in the spring.
there will be a problem with the dehumidifier. It will work fine if the ambient temperature is no higher the 60 65 tops. Any warmer then that and the dehumidifier is going to make too much heat and the room will be hot. Better choice is go with a portable AC / combo dehumidifier that will vent the heat out through a hose you put in the window rather then super heating the room. |
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 CylonRedPremium,MVM join:2000-07-06 Bloom County | If it is put in a central location it won't heat up that much - especially smaller places as they will not need to run as much. This is coming form someone who for several years ran a dehumidifier 24x7 in a central location in the house. -- Brian
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I have the windows open but have safety catches.
With regards to the spraying, clean it with water and white vinegar. You can get repellents to stop cats spraying in your house, they have pheromones in I think. |
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said by norbert26:said by IowaCowboy:Yes and I pay for it in terms of allergies. But if I close the windows all the electronics in my bedroom will heat it up to 90 degrees. And if I turn the A/C on with cool ambient temps it will frequently cycle where the compressor will cycle on for a minute and off for a few and then on again.
The exterior of our house is a dark stained brown wood siding and my bedroom is on the east side of the building so it heats up pretty early.
Another advantage is the bedrooms are second story so we can sleep with the burglar alarm on.
Humidity is an issue in this house. I think another strategy I'm going to undertake in my allergy war besides the Pergo in the bedroom is purchasing a dehumidifier in the spring.
there will be a problem with the dehumidifier. It will work fine if the ambient temperature is no higher the 60 65 tops. Any warmer then that and the dehumidifier is going to make too much heat and the room will be hot. Better choice is go with a portable AC / combo dehumidifier that will vent the heat out through a hose you put in the window rather then super heating the room. My dehumidifier must not know that because it doesn't heat up the room. The temp stays about the same with or without it turned on. Maybe old technology caused that or something else weird. |
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said by CylonRed:If it is put in a central location it won't heat up that much - especially smaller places as they will not need to run as much. This is coming form someone who for several years ran a dehumidifier 24x7 in a central location in the house.
Yes that will be OK i was thinking in terms of it being in the bedroom with them. Someplace else in a central part of the house will be fine as long as the heat can dissipate. Only drawback is you have to leave bedroom door open which may and may not be an issue . |
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said by AbruptMayhem:said by norbert26:said by IowaCowboy:Yes and I pay for it in terms of allergies. But if I close the windows all the electronics in my bedroom will heat it up to 90 degrees. And if I turn the A/C on with cool ambient temps it will frequently cycle where the compressor will cycle on for a minute and off for a few and then on again.
The exterior of our house is a dark stained brown wood siding and my bedroom is on the east side of the building so it heats up pretty early.
Another advantage is the bedrooms are second story so we can sleep with the burglar alarm on.
Humidity is an issue in this house. I think another strategy I'm going to undertake in my allergy war besides the Pergo in the bedroom is purchasing a dehumidifier in the spring.
there will be a problem with the dehumidifier. It will work fine if the ambient temperature is no higher the 60 65 tops. Any warmer then that and the dehumidifier is going to make too much heat and the room will be hot. Better choice is go with a portable AC / combo dehumidifier that will vent the heat out through a hose you put in the window rather then super heating the room. My dehumidifier must not know that because it doesn't heat up the room. The temp stays about the same with or without it turned on. Maybe old technology caused that or something else weird. thee dehumidifier i tried a few years back was a 70 pint largest one. it superheated the room. Perhaps a smaller one would have done better . That said in my child hood home the old 60s dehumidifier never heated the basement in fact when you had a heatwave the finished basement was your escape from the heat and humidity. It was an old sears 1960s model water pan was in the back of the unit. |
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Our dehumidifier will raise the temp around 1.5 degrees running on high non-stop. The catch is by lowering the RH by 10-15% it feels the same even though it went up 1.5 degrees. |
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Open as much as possible, all seasons. Love the fresh air and the sounds. We have rather high humidity all year round, but I don't see a concern. The dehumidifier runs in the basement as required but the rest of the house is fine. The only down side is that if a storm blows through, you have to run around closing windows and maybe wipe the window sill with a towel. |
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 | said by Tig:Open as much as possible, all seasons. Love the fresh air and the sounds. We have rather high humidity all year round, but I don't see a concern. The dehumidifier runs in the basement as required but the rest of the house is fine. The only down side is that if a storm blows through, you have to run around closing windows and maybe wipe the window sill with a towel.
You wouldn't "see" any concerns but that doesn't mean they don't exist. »www.mnn.com/health/healthy-space···our-home |
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The best dehumidifier is an air conditioner. As opposed to a simple dehumidifier it also cools the house instead of warming it and does all this for a fraction of the cost. A dehumidifier extracts some 1.2L of water for 1kWh of electricity, about 2500BTU worth of heat. The difference of about 900BTU (1kWh -> 3413BTU) is released as heat inside the room. A cheapo window AC (10EER) extracts 10,000BTU of heat for the same electricity used. |
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Got all that covered, it's not hard to do. One final issue to resolve is to complete filling in an old portion of basement that is about the same depth as my well. Sometimes you win the battle by avoiding the fight. FWIW, stale air is unhealthy, you have to find your balance. Our building code mandates HRVs, which boggles my mind since I have windows, which do the job manually but more efficiently. |
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said by cowboyro:The best dehumidifier is an air conditioner. As opposed to a simple dehumidifier it also cools the house instead of warming it and does all this for a fraction of the cost. A dehumidifier extracts some 1.2L of water for 1kWh of electricity, about 2500BTU worth of heat. The difference of about 900BTU (1kWh -> 3413BTU) is released as heat inside the room. A cheapo window AC (10EER) extracts 10,000BTU of heat for the same electricity used.
If you want to change the room temp it's a great option. If you don't then its' not. |
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said by norbert26:Better choice is go with a portable AC / combo dehumidifier that will vent the heat out through a hose you put in the window rather then super heating the room. So.... along with all of that heat you're pushing out the vent is conditioned room air. Obviously a house isn't air-tight, so unconditioned air from outside is going to come right back inside the house. I'm not a fan of portable units. Maybe they work better in other climates, but they fail miserably in the hot, humid Florida climates. I've used them, but the make-up air from outside usually brings in more humidity and heat than these units can remove, so the net effect is the space in front of the portable AC gets cool and clammy, while the rest of the house gets warm & muggy.
On the original poster's question: I keep mine closed almost all the time. Save a few times when there's low humidity in Florida. Even then, I'll open the windows when I get home from work, but close them before I go to bed, before the dewpoints climb overnight. As far as fans go, it depends upon the house and conditions. If you're in a two story house and are trying to cool off the house, windows downstairs would be IN, upstairs windows would be OUT, as heat naturally wants to rise, so the cooler air would be drawn in from downstairs and exhausted upstairs. In the colder temperatures, you'd probably just need to crack the window a bit with no fan needed. Thermal convection will naturally cause the cooler air to rush in / warm air to rush out.
Dehumidifiers FTW! Except the pile of recalled ones I have to deal with ATM. Even with central air, dehumidifiers are still key to comfort. The highest humidity levels here are when there's the least amount of heat, so the AC doesn't run often enough to keep humidity under control at night/early evening/early morning. Currently have a Frigidaire FAD704DWD cranking away here. After nearly 10" of rain in 2 days, it's a balmy 45% relative humidity inside AND the unit isn't running constantly to keep it that way. |
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said by cowboyro:The best dehumidifier is an air conditioner. As opposed to a simple dehumidifier it also cools the house instead of warming it and does all this for a fraction of the cost. A dehumidifier extracts some 1.2L of water for 1kWh of electricity, about 2500BTU worth of heat. The difference of about 900BTU (1kWh -> 3413BTU) is released as heat inside the room. A cheapo window AC (10EER) extracts 10,000BTU of heat for the same electricity used.
it's a bit more complicated. in a dehumidifier you have the condenser and motor producing heat, but the evaporator is removing some. they still make a room hot though. in IowaCowboy's case, he leaves the window open because it gets too hot in the room, using a dehumidifier in a room with the windows open defeats it's purpose, the only thing he CAN use is an air conditioner in his case. |
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 sk1939Premium join:2010-10-23 Frankfurt,DE kudos:9 | reply to BIsley
Open, since it's between 63 and 50*F here. |
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 | said by sk1939:Open, since it's between 63 and 50*F here.
I'd be headed for divorce keeping the house that cold! |
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1 recommendation | reply to BIsley
Never open windows. Right now 58° outside. Inside 73° with 53% RH. No need to let pollen, dirt, moisture, etc infiltrate our living space. |
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said by AbruptMayhem:said by sk1939:Open, since it's between 63 and 50*F here.
I'd be headed for divorce keeping the house that cold! I don't really notice to be honest. I have radiant heat in the floors, which keep ambient temps about 74* at minimal expense. |
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 | said by sk1939:said by AbruptMayhem:said by sk1939:Open, since it's between 63 and 50*F here.
I'd be headed for divorce keeping the house that cold! I don't really notice to be honest. I have radiant heat in the floors, which keep ambient temps about 74* at minimal expense. Wait.....you run the heat with the windows open? |
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| said by AbruptMayhem:Wait.....you run the heat with the windows open?
Yep, just to moderate the temperature since there isn't an actual thermostat, just a dial that says 0-6. |
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I live along the Long Island, NY shoreline. I keep a double window fan on exhaust in the LR, 24/7/365. I keep it in the top portion of the window with the bottom window always open, at least a crack.
I also have an exhaust fan in the bathroom window running 24/7/365.
I will turn the fans on high during inclement weather with winds that may be blowing toward the fans. I also keep a piece of Plexiglas, cut to the LR window length, that I wedge at an angle between the bottom window and the fan. This prevents rain or snow from coming into the room through the fan.
I can not live with windows closed any time of the year or at any temperature!  |
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How so? |
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To reduce short-cycling on a window AC that has digital controls, you can remove the temp sensor from the evaporator, cut it's cord, splice on a connector on the cord going to the control board, and splice on a long cord to the sensor and a matching connector, so you can put the sensor over on the other side of the room, and still be able to disconnect it to remove the AC from the window for cleaning etc. This stops the AC from sensing it's own cold too early, and shutting back down prematurely.
To improve humidity removal a LOT, you can rewire the fan to receive power through the compressor relay. This way, the moisture still on the evaporator coil when the compressor shuts off will not be dried off the coil and released back into the room. And the newer high-efficiency coils can hold a LOT of moisture because they have so much fin area. Depending on how much trouble you go to, you may or may not retain the ability to change the fan speed or use fan only modes. The best way would usually be to cut the circuit board traces where line hot goes into each of the fan relays, then jumper from the fan relay inputs to the compressor relay output. To be really fancy, add a SPDT switch to toggle whether the fan relays get power directly from line (default behavior), or the switched line from the compressor relay (fan doesn't run unless compressor is running).
Obviously all of the fan power rewiring is not necessary if the built in controls already have the feature to cycle the fan along with the compressor, but this seems like a really rare feature on window units. Even when they allegedly have the feature (usually called 'energy saver'), it continues to run the fan for 1 or 2 minutes after the compressor stops, which defeats it's utility in preventing moisture return to the room.
Disclaimer: all this voids warranties, and also put life and property at risk if you don't really know what you're doing. |
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said by Jack_in_VA:Never open windows. Right now 58° outside. Inside 73° with 53% RH. No need to let pollen, dirt, moisture, etc infiltrate our living space.
As opposed to the dust mites, dead skin cells, bacteria, body odors, etc that the indoor air harbors? -- ...I'll go back in my cave now... |
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 Zorack join:2001-12-14 Fayetteville, WV | reply to BIsley
Re: [General] Do you sleep with your windows open? I only have my window open when I sleep in the Summer time and in the fall when the night temps are not below 60(and when it rains as well of course!) -- Matt Barlow Rules! Bring him back to Iced Earth! \m/ |
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Re: [General] Re: Do you sleep with your windows open? Opening windows will do nothing to alleviate any of those. Well maybe a fart will dissipate a little faster.
The electronic air filter takes care of anything the air return can pick up. |
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 alkizmo join:2007-06-25 Pierrefonds, QC kudos:1 | reply to BIsley
Re: [General] Do you sleep with your windows open? Second floor windows can stay open. It would just be simpler to kick in the back door or force main floor windows open than climb to the 2nd floor.
But I keep them mostly closed in the bedrooms, because there is always the occasional douchebag that will pass in our quiet street and just go nuts on a super loud muffler. Also I am very sensitive to noise, people talking in the street as they take a walk can wake me up. |
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 tcopePremium join:2003-05-07 Sandy, UT kudos:2 | reply to BIsley
I open my windows as often as possible. Might have something to do with living in FL for 25 years (could never open) and moving to UT. I leave them open when outside temps are 78 - 60, which is usually from now until November. I don't worry at night as 1) crime rate is _extremely_ low and 2) if someone is going to break into a house at night (when people are usually home), they are going to break in regardless if a window is open or not. Would be the same during the day... I don't think a pane of glass is going to stop someone. I say in higher crime rate area an open window might look more like an invitation though.
I also don't need to worry about humidity. |
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 IowaCowboyWant to go back to IowaPremium join:2010-10-16 Springfield, MA Reviews:
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| The bedrooms are upstairs in my house. I also have a burglar alarm which has a keyfob that can arm and disarm the system and has a panic button that can send a distress signal to the alarm company. And I think the keyfob is the culprit behind a couple of false alarms where the cops have showed up.
I don't think the burglars want to mess with an 80 lb Alaskan Malamute. He is the friendliest dog but they are protective of their owners in general. The presence of a large dogs in general sends burglars elsewhere.
Grandma sleeps in the living room since she cannot get upstairs due to mobility. If it gets too hot I use the A/C. -- I've experienced ImOn (when they were McLeod USA), Mediacom, Comcast, and Time Warner and I currently have DirecTV. They are much better than broadcast TV.
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