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eeeaddict

join:2010-02-14

when will we get upload bump?

3-4mbps is pretty pathetic when will we get a decent bump in speed to something like 10 or 20?


vincom

join:2009-03-06
Bolton, ON
kudos:1

said by eeeaddict:

3-4mbps is pretty pathetic when will we get a decent bump in speed to something like 10 or 20?

switch to an isp or pay rogers ultimate 150/10 250gb for $125.99, for my area anyways


XR999
See ya Rogers.

join:2010-05-24
Ottawa, ON
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·Bell Sympatico
·voip.ms
reply to eeeaddict

With Rogers themselves, you either need to switch to 150/10 or it's going to be awhile before upload increases, they seem to have little interest in competing with Bell on upload. That said, thanks to the way ATPIA cable service works, TPIA cable providers have already started to offer higher upload. Start.ca for example offers "Plus" cable plans which are essentially 150/10 service with your download speed limited by Start to the standard speeds of 25, 35 or 45. So you can get 45/10 for $69.95 a month (300GB cap) or if you just want to match the standard 25/10 offered by Bell Fibe, it's $49.95 (150GB cap). Also unlimited bandwidth is available for any plan they offer except 150/10 for an extra $10 and if you have current cable Internet service, the transfer is free (although you will need to either rent a cable modem from them or buy a one from them or elsewhere unless you already own a modem on their approved list).


eeeaddict

join:2010-02-14

I've seen the whole thing start is doing but the problem is I need more than 10 up because of online backups, even at 10mbps it would take 92 days to upload most of my files to the cloud


Ree

join:2007-04-29
h0h0h0

said by eeeaddict:

I've seen the whole thing start is doing but the problem is I need more than 10 up because of online backups, even at 10mbps it would take 92 days to upload most of my files to the cloud

You've got 10 terabytes of stuff to backup?


sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
Ottawa
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reply to eeeaddict

It's currently part of the technical limitation on residential internet. The average residential user downloads about 10 times as much stuff as they upload, hence the assymmetric speeds were part of the design.

Symmetrical speeds are common for businesses that host on their own site.

So, higher upload is not likely for a long time since the vast majority of users have no need for that kind of upload.

On a slightly different tack, I hate cloud computing because your data is at extreme risk out there for loss and intrusion. You can control access to your own systems in your house. So I have 0MB on the cloud, never mind 10TB ... and I back up to plug in drives here. If I had the money, I'd go for raid.

Look at the "secure email" servers like Yahoo! and Hotmail ... How often have people logged into your account and sent out spam direct from your account. I actually caught someone in the process with my account! It took 5 password changes and he still got back in until I abandoned that account and went to an entirely new one to shed this guy.


TypeS

join:2012-12-17
London, ON
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reply to eeeaddict

If even the 10Mbps up some providers offer is not enough, your needs clearly outweigh what is offered by residential service. Time to look into pricey WAN connection, if what you're backing up is that critical.

There's always the good old physical back ups, and put them in a secure location.


eeeaddict

join:2010-02-14
reply to sbrook

everything is encrypted with my own key made before upload so no security problems mostly footage from my 60d which runs at about 70Mbps so thats why the number is so big



Vincent221

@dc-uoit.net
reply to eeeaddict

Not sure if anyone heard of this yet but someone told me that either this week or next week there will be a new package available that offers 250 Mbits Down and 20 Mbits Up with 1TB in Data usage. Supposed to go for $125 a month but not 100% sure yet.



elitefx

join:2011-02-14
London, ON
kudos:1

Well here's hoping Rogers drops the current 150/10 down to $50 a month. Now back to reality I go...................... .



MJB

join:2012-01-29
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take all rogers customers to third party = solved problem... btw we are at 36th place now for download speeds... drop two marks the last from the 34th place we where at.... big telecom are big bullies...

besides why do you need rogers ... teksavvy is cheaper for 300gb on the express extreme and extreme plus speeds... i don't get it why people on rogers insist that the internet from teksavvy is different....
omg it is the same speeds as rogers and the same internet....

maybe it has to do that they are chickens and don't know how to back up email with csv file and actually closed down their account and switch to tpia...

just customers are selfish and ignorant. they just want internet... they don't know anything on how it works... just ask them what mbps/dns/cmts/dslam/rootserver and they will know nothing... stupid sheeple



MJB

join:2012-01-29

i know rogers customers won't switch... they have no ability to save money... just throw it at rogers and watch them buy everything up... the same goes with the other telecoms. the big ones... not the iisps



elitefx

join:2011-02-14
London, ON
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Well, I own my own modem and I get 25/2 for $42 month from Rogers currently. That ends next spring.

Not happy about it but then I'm not happy at the prospect of the TPIA startup costs either. And I'm definitely NOT HAPPY at the thought of retiring my rock solid Cisco D3 modem

Might just ditch the internet period. I've had it 10 years. It's been a good run.

Pretty pissed at getting taken to the cleaners no matter which way I turn.



MJB

join:2012-01-29
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·Rogers Hi-Speed

vmedia gets good speeds... youtube,etc...
.
bittorrrent and filesharing are affected by throttling and crap pulled by rogers... i have a dcm476 and asus ac66u router.... i know that rogers gets tariffs... but it is good to get away from rogers and their crap...

is the cisco one a 8 by 4 channel bonding....

i know that the tpia startup costs are a damn thing to pay but it tells rogers... (FU for shitty internet)...

i had to pay 60 bucks for startup... but that's one cost and you pay it once. the benefit is that you get unlimited and the modems you use can be stand alone modems... with your own routing equipment... it's alot cheaper than rogers with 30 dollars for unlimited

if rogers disconnects you from the hfc splitter outside... you can buy tools to open that box... and reconnect the cable line...



MJB

join:2012-01-29
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rogers owns the lines... but the you will get a break from the 6 dollar price increase each year..... if more people are on iisp's... there is a chance that we can turn the situation in canada around and back on the right track....

i would gladly say that if 2 people had to fund rogers for internet, tv, home phone, and cell phones.... (grandparents and mother) it would be awesome to watch them fork the costs to the company...



MJB

join:2012-01-29

btw what model is the cisco d3 modem?


yyzlhr

join:2012-09-03
Scarborough, ON
kudos:1
reply to Vincent221

said by :

Not sure if anyone heard of this yet but someone told me that either this week or next week there will be a new package available that offers 250 Mbits Down and 20 Mbits Up with 1TB in Data usage. Supposed to go for $125 a month but not 100% sure yet.

That could be a possibility but not for $125, considering that's what the current ultimate tier costs.


TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON
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reply to eeeaddict

heard that it's one of the mean reasons I jumped to start. Mind you for the same price I paid Rogers I now get 35/10 unlimited where before it was 25/2. I guess not enough people care about upload to get Rogers to rise it. I hope they do rise it as it will force start to rise their upload being as you have to pay for the extra upload.

Boy I'm not sure who comes off more crazy MJB or elitefx. you guys seem to go off the deep end talking about Rogers and it's users. I hope you know if Rogers and bell lets pretend they went bust the internet in Canada would be forked. The 3rd party's can't afford and are damn sure not ready to run the last mile and all the infrastructure bell and Rogers run and take care of that they piggyback on.



MJB

join:2012-01-29

at least people are leaving the big telecom providers... it's a drug.... honestly. their numbers are declining and that is good.



elitefx

join:2011-02-14
London, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Rogers Hi-Speed
reply to TOPDAWG

said by TOPDAWG:

Boy I'm not sure who comes off more crazy MJB or elitefx. you guys seem to go off the deep end talking about Rogers and it's users. I hope you know if Rogers and bell lets pretend they went bust the internet in Canada would be forked.

It's all about the CASH man. As in Rogers sucking it out of your wallet at an ALARMING speed and for what?. A SIMPLE connection to the rest of the world.

The internet doesn't exist because of the BIG 3. It's like death and taxes. Here forever.

The network infrastructure should be wholly owned by the Canadian people/federal government. The Big 3 should be renting space on it from them.

We're talking the biggest CASH COW in history here. Sadly, it's controlled by Rogers, Bell and Telus.

And we're getting ripped off daily by having some of the highest rates on the ENTIRE planet.


MJB

join:2012-01-29

totally true... same thing is with fttn/ftth with bell... bell install dsl (5mbit/800kbit) in new neighborhoods... for example the one in delaware ontario (old slow dsl).... no fiber what so ever.



SomeDude14

@rogers.com

I also heard about a new tier coming soon, with 24 bonded channels downstream. The new Hitron is supposedly capable of doing it. Don't know when it will be offered or it's just a rumor



elitefx

join:2011-02-14
London, ON
kudos:1

One of the Rogers mods just posted over in their community forums to: 'stay tuned to Rogers.com for all the line up changes to our products & services'

Gotta wonder if they'll finally give us our dollar's worth.



sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
Ottawa
kudos:11

of course not! They will give themselves OUR Dollars.


eeeaddict

join:2010-02-14
reply to Vincent221

u sure this is legit? thats same price as the 150 down package, I'll switch to first iisp that gets this



MJB

join:2012-01-29

more people need to be on iisp's lets have the people are dumb enough to stick with big telecom pay the bills to them... i see a 1000% + price increase for them..


eeeaddict

join:2010-02-14
reply to elitefx

oh wow imagine what you could do with TWENTY FOUR downstream channels!



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join:2011-03-31
Toronto, ON
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said by eeeaddict:

oh wow imagine what you could do with TWENTY FOUR downstream channels!

Not much else, if yer on a high speed tier 150 or 225 or whatever it is, having more channels downstream just helps make it easier to take a load off the node. It doesn't give you any adittional capabilities.
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Arx160le

join:2013-02-12
reply to eeeaddict

The modem that Rogers has given us and calls it the "cgn3" is actually a rebranded CGNDM (slower with only 16 channels downstream): »www.hitron-americas.com/products/cgndm/
If you look at the cgn3 ( »www.hitron-americas.com/products/cgn3 ) you can see that the colors and USB placement and the icons on the front are COMPLETELY different than what Rogers has given to us and called the cgn3, while everything on the slower and older CGNDM matches the modem that Rogers has gave us (other than the logo that Rogers has changed of course). This is also why many of you will notice that your "cgn3" only actually does 16 bonded downstream channels, instead of 24.


LSTA

join:2010-11-25
North York, ON

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@Arx160le -- Crap. I have indeed noticed the limit of 16 channels. I assumed it was merely picking 16 of 24. Actually, um, every mention of 900+ mbps speeds assumes the CGN3-ROG is in fact the CGN3. Makes me wonder if it's 16/8 or merely 16/4. I've so far had only 3 upstream connections. Dang, 16/4. Suddenly, I might be looking to return this modem, or resell it, since I can't take it with me to TPIAs anyway.

The CGN3 looks entirely different in the spec sheet: »www.hitron-americas.com/assets/C···heet.pdf -- it's less boxy there.

I bet we don't see 24/8 speeds at Rogers until we get 802.11ac with something like the »www.hitron-americas.com/products/cgnm/ ... perhaps as early as next year, after the 250mbps speed bump?

Actually, gah, the CGN4 has 802.11ac and 24x8, so perhaps that's the CGN4-ROG sneak-peek. Sigh.