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[DSL] SmartRG SR505N Modem

I now have two of these, which I am checking out during the next few days, and hope to give a little report afterward. I may be able to answer (simple) (specific) technical questions in the meantime. (I have access to both IKNS and 7330 remotes.)

This modem has 1/6th the volume and 1/5th the mass of the (syncnosurf) (IKNS-inside) SagemCom, and uses 40% less power.

»www.smartrg.com/site/smartrg_v2/···heet.pdf
»www.lmi.net/wp-content/uploads/S···350N.pdf -- a manual for similar modems

if possible please post line statistics for the SmartRG and Sagemcom on the IKANOS remote.

Looking forward to seeing how well it works and syncs on a Stinger (IKNS) remote...

I'm holding back a bit before buying one... Mainly i want to see if it can maintain 10meg upload, my line can handle 10meg up on the Cellpipe and Sagemcom modems.
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I would think a simple speedtest.net run would verify if the modem can support 10 megs upload

Alot of people (myself included) are also interested in whether the modem can support the same 10 megs upload when the modem is used in bridge mode (the sagemcom doesn't support full speed in bridge mode)

i second that, while connected via IKNS remote, please post speedtest as well as
a screenshot as seen here
»[DSL] SmartRG Bridge Mode

Could you please clarify exactly what you mean by "Sagemcom in bridge mode", so that I can replicate that result?

Interesting that there is so much interest in performance questions, and none (yet) in questions about design, UI, functionality, implementation, and quality.

Ah. Sync rate is easy. I was reading more into your word "maintain" than you had intended.

I just logged into the (IKNS-connected) Sagemcom -- there is no line data at all. Not even sync rate. Not even in syslog.

(If you are not using your telnet-capable Sagemcom, maybe I can borrow it to do line-stat comparisons, if you are near M5S. That may be easier than trying to educate one of my Sagemcoms.)

Later this afternoon or evening I will go there with the SmartRGs, and a newly configured Tomato router.

Very nice detailed stats thru telnet... and it shows the VDSL2 profile, which it doesnt in the web interface that someone posted before... Quick and dirty way to see if you're on a Stinger or not.

One stat it seems to lack is approximate distance. But attenuation numbers are there so its easy to compare to different lines.
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I didn't express myself clearly enough:

I wrote:

"Could you please clarify exactly what you mean by "Sagemcom in bridge mode", so that I can replicate that result?"

I should have written:

"Could you please clarify exactly what you mean by "Sagemcom in bridge mode", so that I can replicate YOUR result?"

Can you please show your own results: Sagemcom in "bridge mode" and not in "bridge mode"?

Then (after you specify the settings for each), I will do my best to accommodate your request. )

===> Edit: Best I can tell, the difference is a myth.

But when I post IKNS stats, as planned, probably later tonight, for the SmartRG, we'll know. Especially if it syncs at 10.

===> Edit: It sanc at 10.

can you post same stats for a stinger/ikns remote?
everything works on 7330...

Sweet, it seems to sync nice at 11.3meg on stinger, with similar attenuation numbers like my line...

Thanks a lot!
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Is that an internal test result?
I tried two Bell FTTn VDSL lines (Ikanos) in GTA, no one was able to sync. Do you know what is the reason, Bell profile or CPE settings?

To set the Modem up in Bridge Mode:

Advanced Setup > WAN Service

(Remove the PPPoE interface, then ...)

[Add]

"Wan Service Interface Configuration"
Select ptm0/(0_1_1)
[Next]

"WAN Service Configuration"
Select WAN service type: Bridging
Enter 802.1P Priority ...... [1]
Enter 802.1Q, VLAN ID ... [35]
[Next]

[Save/Apply]

i don't have a sagemcom so can't provide any of my info. The reason i've been waiting to go to VDSL is I didn't want to have to by a modem with the issues sagemcom has so wanted to see if the new smartrg modem has the same issues.

From your tests it looks like I'll be able to pull the trigger on the smartrg

Thanks for your work

Alistair

Success on a stinger here! woo! full sync rate and full speed in bridge mode!

Better stats than I had on Cellpipe or Sagemcom modems. This is on a connection roughly 950ft from the remote.

BCM963268 Broadband Router
Login: admin
Password:
 > adsl info --show
adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    8000
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 15592 Kbps, Downstream rate = 63416 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 11321 Kbps, Downstream rate = 53951 Kbps

Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex A
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 12a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        10.9            9.3
Attn(dB):        11.4            0.0
Pwr(dBm):        14.2           -10.6

                        VDSL2 framing
                        Bearer 0
MSGc:           16              45
B:              239             240
M:              1               1
T:              64              22
R:              0               14
S:              0.1416          0.6764
L:              13560           3016
D:              1               1
I:              240             255
N:              240             255

                        Counters
                        Bearer 0
OHF:            269968          54933
OHFErr:         2               0
RS:             0               3625059
RSCorr:         0               0
RSUnCorr:       0               0

                        Bearer 0
HEC:            2               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    63543261                0
Data Cells:     1477716         0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             1               1
SES:            0               1
UAS:            75              75
AS:             614

                        Bearer 0
INP:            0.00            0.00
INPRein:        0.00            0.00
delay:          0               0
PER:            2.27            11.20
OR:             77.38           36.41
AgR:            54028.94        11357.29

Bitswap:        0/7             0/0

wow, looks good

what was your max attainable upload on the sagem?
i am on teksavvy too, where did you buy your smartrg?

on the Sagemcom it was in the 14000's... I got it thru a friend who's a Start customer.
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grrr, i want a Start customer friend too!
report on long term stability HiVolt

Yeah, i'll report if I encounter any instability... I'm using it exclusively in bridge mode, wifi disabled, so I wont be able to comment on its routing or wifi capabilities...

Also worth mentioning I'm using two routers, with two concurrent pppoe sessions for two logins, one TSI the other Bell.
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Hmm, one of my buddies just signed up with Start specifically because they had the SmartRG ready to go and other IISPs did not (he had a deadline to switch due to an existing contract ending)... I should borrow his new modem and see how it compares on my line to the Sagemcom...
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Just got off the phone with Start. Modem should be shipped out in a day or so, and no issues not having internet with them.

Thanks for putting this together, Rocca!

Update:

About an hour ago I set the modem up for Bridge Mode. Then I took it to the IKNS-Stinger site where Start installs tomorrow. I plugged in the modem, plugged the phone line into the DSL port, plugged the Tomato router's WAN line into LAN1, watched the DSL light sync, and the Tomato router's Internet light come on. The whole operation took about 2 minutes.

Then I returned here to adjust the Tomato router's configuration remotely, because it was at 192.168.1.1, same as the modem.

So now the Tomato router is at 192.168.0.1, and I fixed the static settings and the BW-Limiter settings, and cancelled the leases.

I now have remote access to the SmartRG (through the Tomato Router).

With the modem in Bridge Mode, there was no need to change anything in the Tomato router, except the router's IP address (and subnet), in order to access the modem.

So, after the Start service is installed tomorrow, I can simply change the username and password in the Tomato router.

(I imagine the scary moment will be when Bell service is discontinued in a week, and there is a possibility of something being disconnected accidentally then. )