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jkaufman
Premium
join:2013-09-26
Tyler, TX
Reviews:
·Suddenlink

1 recommendation

Tyler, Tx Changes

My service was down the other night in Tyler for "upgrades". I then noticed that my modem was bonding on 8 downstream channels instead of 4. Still only one channel on the upstream.

So far no changes in speed or ping time. I am on the 107/5 package, but usually receive 40-70/5 depending on time of day (on occasion up to ~90mbps).

Anyone know if SL plans to bond upstream or at least offer more realistic upstream speeds?


moldypickle

join:2009-01-04
Haughton, LA
kudos:2
I had just inquired about that last week actually and there are no plans currently in the works at a public knowledge level

Moostang

join:2009-03-24
Tyler, TX

1 recommendation

reply to jkaufman
Yea I noticed that mine is 8 channel now too so I called and bumped it back up to 107mb. For the past 24 hours I have seen a constant 107mb every time I tested.

Turbo Mach 5

join:2008-05-29
San Augustine, TX
Reviews:
·Suddenlink
reply to jkaufman
Funny thing: About a month ago I noticed my modem switching from 1 to 4 chan down. Don't know if it's truly bonded (yes I have a Motorola SB6121). This is in the little old town of San Augustine. No speed increase (10/1 still) but my friend said they probably did that because the node is overworked? I don't know hehe.


motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:4
reply to jkaufman
would love to see the day when Sulphur Springs offers 50Mbps at least that system is a part of the east texas interconnect fed of out tyler and they have an issue where they have to dedicate a lot of bandwidth to HD locals for the Dallas-Fort Worth DMA and the neighboring counties have the room to do DOCSIS 3.0 what is sad is Sulphur Springs is 860MHz but they need to go all digital to offer 50Mbps or 107Mbps tiers. I think Sulphur Springs may have two DOCSIS channels on the downstream but not exactly sure.
said by jkaufman:

My service was down the other night in Tyler for "upgrades". I then noticed that my modem was bonding on 8 downstream channels instead of 4. Still only one channel on the upstream.

So far no changes in speed or ping time. I am on the 107/5 package, but usually receive 40-70/5 depending on time of day (on occasion up to ~90mbps).

Anyone know if SL plans to bond upstream or at least offer more realistic upstream speeds?



motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:4
reply to Turbo Mach 5
hmm I don't know but from the looks of it the San Augustine system is at least 550MHz and they have a lot of room open still and they may be getting ready to offer HD too? All I know is it looks like they use Scientific Atlanta system I amps which are 550MHz I believe. Also this is probably why there are analogs all the way out to channel 64 on your system.
said by Turbo Mach 5:

Funny thing: About a month ago I noticed my modem switching from 1 to 4 chan down. Don't know if it's truly bonded (yes I have a Motorola SB6121). This is in the little old town of San Augustine. No speed increase (10/1 still) but my friend said they probably did that because the node is overworked? I don't know hehe.


Turbo Mach 5

join:2008-05-29
San Augustine, TX
Reviews:
·Suddenlink
Yah we do have analog chans up to 64...signal on some of them: terrible lol (as I watch my father's TV in the nursing home). Maybe so or maybe it's just equipment being shuffled. But hey, I'll be optimistic And...is 550mhz determined by adding the ranges up from each chan (4 d / 1 u)? Just trying to learn a little more about what's set up here.


motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:4
said by Turbo Mach 5:

Yah we do have analog chans up to 64...signal on some of them: terrible lol (as I watch my father's TV in the nursing home). Maybe so or maybe it's just equipment being shuffled. But hey, I'll be optimistic And...is 550mhz determined by adding the ranges up from each chan (4 d / 1 u)? Just trying to learn a little more about what's set up here.

no what are the downstream frequencies for internet? I can say the system is 550MHz by using google maps and looking at the line equipment and it is not the 450MHz gear that you see in a lot of older systems which Scientific Atlanta had a lot deployments throughout the country in the late 80s-early 90s with. The equipment there is more like the SA system II gear that went out to 750MHz but is a step in between that and the 450MHz gear.

here where I am at all the gear is either Motorola or Aurora networks and it is a mix of 870MHz and 1GHz gear. System was rebuilt from 550MHz to 750MHz around 2000 and to 860MHz from 750MHz in 2008.

here is my internet channels:
Downstream Bonded Channels
Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Frequency Power SNR Correctables Uncorrectables
1 Locked QAM256 1 771000000 Hz -3.5 dBmV 37.9 dB 262 0
2 Locked QAM256 2 777000000 Hz -4.1 dBmV 37.5 dB 470 0
3 Locked QAM256 3 783000000 Hz -4.9 dBmV 36.7 dB 1213 0
4 Locked QAM256 4 789000000 Hz -5.1 dBmV 36.4 dB 1144 0
5 Locked QAM256 5 795000000 Hz -5.5 dBmV 35.9 dB 2291 0
6 Locked QAM256 6 801000000 Hz -5.8 dBmV 36.3 dB 248 0
7 Locked QAM256 7 807000000 Hz -6.4 dBmV 36.3 dB 973 26
8 Locked QAM256 8 813000000 Hz -6.4 dBmV 35.9 dB 54542 170733

Upstream Bonded Channels
Channel Lock Status US Channel Type Channel ID Symbol Rate Frequency Power
1 Locked TDMA and ATDMA 11 2560 Ksym/sec 29500000 Hz 30.2 dBmV
2 Locked TDMA and ATDMA 9 2560 Ksym/sec 36500000 Hz 30.2 dBmV
3 Locked TDMA and ATDMA 10 2560 Ksym/sec 33000000 Hz 30.2 dBmV
4 Locked TDMA and ATDMA 12 2560 Ksym/sec 24500000 Hz 30.2 dBmV

some areas of my system have:
19MHz
23.8MHz
30.6MHz
37MHz

for upstreams bonding and I am leaning towards that Time Warner Cable is slowly migrating to the second set of upstream frequencies and with that change they are moving towards:
3 6.4MHz carriers and 1 3.2MHz carrier for internet on the upstream right I am on 4 3.2MHz upstreams.

Hmm Paris TX is 550MHz and they have over 100 HD, VOD, DOCSIS 3.0 and digital phone. so maybe eventually you will get HD? I know that Eastland TX another former classic cable area has about 50 HD channels and they are only 450MHz.

jkaufman
Premium
join:2013-09-26
Tyler, TX
reply to jkaufman
I am now seeing consistent 107mb speeds as well.

jkaufman
Premium
join:2013-09-26
Tyler, TX
Reviews:
·Suddenlink
reply to jkaufman
Here is what my modem says

Downstream 1 52 567.00 MHz -5.43 dBmV 34.63 dB 256QAM
Downstream 2 49 549.00 MHz -5.26 dBmV 35.42 dB 256QAM
Downstream 3 50 555.00 MHz -5.55 dBmV 34.77 dB 256QAM
Downstream 4 51 561.00 MHz -5.50 dBmV 34.63 dB 256QAM
Downstream 5 53 573.00 MHz -3.73 dBmV 37.09 dB 256QAM
Downstream 6 54 579.00 MHz -3.50 dBmV 37.09 dB 256QAM
Downstream 7 55 585.00 MHz -3.94 dBmV 37.09 dB 256QAM
Downstream 8 56 591.00 MHz -3.89 dBmV 36.84 dB 256QAM

Upstream 1 38.00 MHz 49.50 dBmV DOCSIS2.0 (ATDMA) 5120 kSym/s 64QAM

I have a business IT client in another part of town. They are still seeing 4 Downstream Channels.

Turbo Mach 5

join:2008-05-29
San Augustine, TX
Reviews:
·Suddenlink
reply to jkaufman
Channel ID 2 1 3 4 
Frequency 117000000 Hz 111000000 Hz 123000000 Hz 129000000 Hz 
Signal to Noise Ratio 37 dB 37 dB 38 dB 38 dB 
Downstream Modulation QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 
Power Level
The Downstream Power Level reading is a snapshot taken at the time this page was requested. Please Reload/Refresh this Page for a new reading
13 dBmV  14 dBmV  13 dBmV  13 dBmV  
 
 
Upstream Bonding Channel Value
Channel ID 3 
Frequency 27800000 Hz 
Ranging Service ID 172 
Symbol Rate 2.560 Msym/sec 
Power Level 47 dBmV 
Upstream Modulation [5] QPSK
 
Ranging Status Success 
 
 
That is ours.


motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:4
have you heard anything about HD coming to your area?

I see that RF channels:
14
15
98
99

are used for the DOCSIS downstream in your area so maybe they are 450MHz? I would hope 550MHz but they could also be sitting on a lot of that bandwidth above analog 64 right now. Does suddenlink have digital versions of 2-64 yet on the system?
said by Turbo Mach 5:

[code]
Channel ID 2 1 3 4
Frequency 117000000 Hz 111000000 Hz 123000000 Hz 129000000 Hz
Signal to Noise Ratio 37 dB 37 dB 38 dB 38 dB
Downstream Modulation QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM256
Power Level
The Downstream Power Level reading is a snapshot taken at the time this page was requested. Please Reload/Refresh this Page for a new reading
13 dBmV 14 dBmV 13 dBmV 13 dBmV

Upstream Bonding Channel Value
Channel ID 3
Frequency 27800000 Hz
Ranging Service ID 172
Symbol Rate 2.560 Msym/sec
Power Level 47 dBmV
Upstream Modulation [5] QPSK

Ranging Status Success

[/code]
That is ours.



motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:4
reply to jkaufman
hmm I believe in parts of North East Texas 573MHz and 579MHz are used for VOD and 585MHz along with 549MHz are used for HD locals at least in Sulphur Springs TX they have I think 14 of the 15 locals in HD there so they have a lot of QAMs dedicated to locals in HD and not to mention suddenlink has to over pack some of them with having 3 HD and a few SD OTA subchannels on the same QAM. I wish sulphur Springs would move a few of the locals to digital only to free up room for more DOCSIS carriers or just go all digital so the Tyler area could add more HD as they are a part of the hold up to do so.
said by jkaufman:

Here is what my modem says

Downstream 1 52 567.00 MHz -5.43 dBmV 34.63 dB 256QAM
Downstream 2 49 549.00 MHz -5.26 dBmV 35.42 dB 256QAM
Downstream 3 50 555.00 MHz -5.55 dBmV 34.77 dB 256QAM
Downstream 4 51 561.00 MHz -5.50 dBmV 34.63 dB 256QAM
Downstream 5 53 573.00 MHz -3.73 dBmV 37.09 dB 256QAM
Downstream 6 54 579.00 MHz -3.50 dBmV 37.09 dB 256QAM
Downstream 7 55 585.00 MHz -3.94 dBmV 37.09 dB 256QAM
Downstream 8 56 591.00 MHz -3.89 dBmV 36.84 dB 256QAM

Upstream 1 38.00 MHz 49.50 dBmV DOCSIS2.0 (ATDMA) 5120 kSym/s 64QAM

I have a business IT client in another part of town. They are still seeing 4 Downstream Channels.


Turbo Mach 5

join:2008-05-29
San Augustine, TX
Reviews:
·Suddenlink
reply to motorola870
Not sure on that. I would have to find someone who has cable. Most folks around here I think use Dish/DirecTV. Based upon the chan listing (which shows Center, TX because I think that's where it comes from for us), it calls it Advanced Digital TV...then again that could just be marketing speak.


Anon432

@verizon.net
reply to motorola870
Suddenlink is already cramming 4 HD's into 1 qam in Lubbock. I don't see what the big deal is carrying 15 locals, that's only 4 QAMs, + 1.5 QAMs for the SD versions since they do 10:1 for SD


motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:4
said by Anon432 :

Suddenlink is already cramming 4 HD's into 1 qam in Lubbock. I don't see what the big deal is carrying 15 locals, that's only 4 QAMs, + 1.5 QAMs for the SD versions since they do 10:1 for SD

it is a big deal when the outlying DMA counties that have different locals only have 2 QAM dedicated to HD locals and subchannels I think the system in Sulphur Springs has at least 4 to 6 QAMs for locals in HD. essentially it is keeping them from launching DOCSIS 3.0 there as that system still has analog and it is pretty much maxed out with Digital simulcast, VOD, 100 HD channels, digital tiers.


Gaff
Just like the gypsy woman said

join:1999-09-05
North TX, US
Reviews:
·Suddenlink
reply to jkaufman
After communicating with SDL L3Tech See Profile I found out that we are using three channel bonding here instead of the four we're meant to be, and this was caused by a misconfiguration on Suddenlink's side. I've been bonded at three channels ever since I resubscribed a year ago and so thought it was intentional, but apparently not.

Suddenlink are performing maintenance tonight (10/3) to fix this issue.
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jhale1

join:2011-02-25
Sulphur Springs, TX
reply to motorola870
Sulphur Springs does has DOCSIS 3.0, does offer 50Mbps, and uses 3 downstream channels...


motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:4
said by jhale1:

Sulphur Springs does has DOCSIS 3.0, does offer 50Mbps, and uses 3 downstream channels...

cool are the frequencies:
555MHz
561MHz
567MHz

?

I have family in your area that have suddenlink at two different house and I know that I recognized those 3 QAM carriers as being available for internet last year or 2011 when I was there and I know that Suddenlink puts a lot of the HD channels up the 750MHz to 860MHz