 Wakjob join:2013-09-27 Deer Park, NY | [Networking] New Fios Install. Did I do the right thing? I have joined the 20th century. I just got Fios! I have phone, Internet, and TV. I went with the 50/25. I also asked the installer to run both Ethernet cat5 and coax. He was nice enough to do so.
Was that the way to go?
I have read that it is preferred to have the Internet over the cat5, and the TV over the coax.
Did I do the right thing? He installed the Alcatel-Lucent I-211M-K, and the MI424WR-GEN3I router.
Thanks for reading. My first post. Regards |
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 fatal join:2000-12-29 Brooklyn, NY | [Networking] Re: New Fios Install. Did I do the right thing? nice welcome to this great site  |
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Cat5 was probably not needed, ,( especially if you don`t plan on using your own router in front of the Actiontec) but won`t hurt
You can always get the Internet changed to coax if you need to move the router to a location where coax is easier to acccess |
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 Wakjob join:2013-09-27 Deer Park, NY | Thank you for the reply; I had read this on the forum: The (slightly lower latency) and the greater than 100Mbps is what sold me.
»Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Coax or cat5 install?
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Should I get a coax or cat5 WAN connection from the ONT?
Verizon's standard install is coax from the ONT to the Actiontec router for tiers less than 100Mbps. Tiers greater than 100Mbps are always cat5.
Coax This reduces installation time since only one cable run to the router is needed and coax needs to be run to the router anyway for FIOS-TV.
One advantage of a coax install is that the Actiontec router can be placed anywhere there is an active coax connection.
The disadvantage of a coax install is that if the router fails, your internet service (including VOD) is out until Verizon can ship you a replacement router.
Cat5 With a cat5 connection to the ONT, you can use the Actiontec as your primary router or you can run your own router. If you have FIOS-TV there are a number of considerations in using your own router. See the following FAQ: »Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »What are the tradeoffs between the various router configurations
Cat5 WAN connections also tend to have slightly lower latency than coax WAN connections. |
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said by Wakjob:I have joined the 20th century. 21st. 
And yes, cat5 is better. -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 |
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 Wakjob join:2013-09-27 Deer Park, NY | I had it right. (20th) I was STILL using cooper for my phone, and a outdoor antenna for TV! LoL I must have been the only one in my neighborhood still on cooper. They would call me everyday and night trying to get me to switch over.
The installer said He has not seen anyone with cooper in my neighborhood in years. He asked me to test the line with my cell phone. I told Him I do not have a cell phone.. He laugh has head off! |
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| said by Wakjob:I had it right. (20th) I was STILL using cooper for my phone, and a outdoor antenna for TV! LoL I must have been the only one in my neighborhood still on cooper. They would call me everyday and night trying to get me to switch over. The installer said He has not seen anyone with cooper in my neighborhood in years. He asked me to test the line with my cell phone. I told Him I do not have a cell phone.. He laugh has head off! Verizon did not have fiber solutions available until the 21st century. |
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1 recommendation | He knows that. He was making a joke that he's still in the 20th century with his old set-up. |
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 Wakjob join:2013-09-27 Deer Park, NY | said by matcarl:He was making a joke At least one person got it. LoL |
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One problem with spell check is that "cooper" is a valid word but not the one he wanted in this context... |
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The I-211M-K is a GPON ONT, so yes that would be the correct way to wire it up.
The Rev. I Actiontec's WAN port, and the GPON ONT's Ethernet port will both link at 1000Mbps, even if you are subscribed to a lower speed tier.
Even if you don't have Internet speed that requires the GigE Cat5e cable today, they would have to roll a truck and re-run it if they had only installed coax.
If you decided to upgrade your Internet speed in the future, they wouldn't need to send a tech out again, they can make the changes from their end. -- ROCK 'TIL SUNSET |
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 Wakjob join:2013-09-27 Deer Park, NY | said by KA3SGM:both link at 1000Mbps Are you sure 1000Mbps. Not 100Mbps? Would they have to come out in order to upgrade to 300/65? N2GYN 73 |
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said by Wakjob:Would they have to come out in order to upgrade to 300/65? They would not have to come out since you have a cat5 WAN connection. -- There are 10 kinds of people in the world; those who understand binary and those who don't.
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A Rev. I router, and a GPON ONT will have the Ethernet link at 1000Mbps/1 Gigabit.
That isn't necessarily the speed of the data flowing over it right now, since you don't have a high speed tier.
I am generally assuming for a new GPON install, that you were given the "RED" Rev.I Actiontec???
The physical Ethernet link rate is still 1000Mbps, only because that is the native link speed of the Ethernet ports.
Look at the back of your router and see if the 2 green lights on the WAN port are lit, and probably blinking.
Both Green lights ON = Gigabit Link.
If you upgraded to 300/65, they wouldn't have to come out and change anything, because the ONT is already capable of Gigabit, and the Router is already capable of Gigabit.
You could call Verizon and change speed tiers, and they can turn it up or down, with the only upper limitation being if your PC didn't already have a Gigabit Ethernet card installed in it. -- ROCK 'TIL SUNSET |
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 Wakjob join:2013-09-27 Deer Park, NY | Thanks for all the good info George. Yes they are blinking green, and yes I do have a Gigabit Ethernet card installed. Kool! Going off topic I just noticed today that I can not TX Calls with Google talk. Would you know anything about that? Thanks, John N2GYN 73 |
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| Google talk??? I don't know if you are running that through your PC or on a 3rd party SIP box like something from ObiHai, but if this is new with Verizon, I would check that the Verizon router has the proper ports open for that. Check to see that the Actiontec's firmware is up to date too, it should do it by itself, but if you are a new customer, it might take a bit to catch up.
I run it(GT) on an Obi 202, and have no problems with it and Fios(so it's not like Verizon blocks it or anything).
Other than that, there is a VoIP forum here on BBR for just those kinds of problems: »VOIP Tech Chat
Try asking the folks over there, they specialize in all things VoIP. -- ROCK 'TIL SUNSET |
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You should of gone full Cat5. Your latency would of dropped a bit on the web. |
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