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Killa

join:2013-08-28
Wilbraham, MA

Is it just me, or does charter routing suck?

I play a lot of video games and latency is very important. 2 of the private servers I play on for matches are located in NY and Atlanta. I live in MA. WHY does it take 14 hops to get to NY when it only takes 10 to get to ATL? It doesnt make any sense to me.

NY Routing

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms READYSHARE [192.168.1.1]
2 6 ms 7 ms 6 ms 10.240.96.1
3 8 ms 6 ms 7 ms crr02chcpma-tge-0-0-0-6.chcp.ma.charter.com [96.
34.84.196]
4 10 ms 8 ms 9 ms crr04oxfrma-tge-0-1-0-3.oxfr.ma.charter.com [96.
34.81.36]
5 14 ms 15 ms 15 ms bbr01oxfrma-bue-2.oxfr.ma.charter.com [96.34.2.1
4]
6 8 ms 9 ms 7 ms bst-edge-05.inet.qwest.net [72.164.154.201]
7 37 ms 37 ms 41 ms atl-pcor-04.inet.qwest.net [67.14.14.170]
8 37 ms 36 ms 35 ms 63.144.15.54
9 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms border10.tge3-1-bbnet1.acs.pnap.net [64.94.0.12]

10 34 ms 36 ms 35 ms c-64-94-238-29.internap-atlanta.nfoservers.com [
64.94.238.29]

ATL Routing

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms READYSHARE [192.168.1.1]
2 6 ms 7 ms 6 ms 10.240.96.1
3 8 ms 6 ms 7 ms crr02chcpma-tge-0-0-0-6.chcp.ma.charter.com [96.
34.84.196]
4 10 ms 8 ms 9 ms crr04oxfrma-tge-0-1-0-3.oxfr.ma.charter.com [96.
34.81.36]
5 14 ms 15 ms 15 ms bbr01oxfrma-bue-2.oxfr.ma.charter.com [96.34.2.1
4]
6 8 ms 9 ms 7 ms bst-edge-05.inet.qwest.net [72.164.154.201]
7 37 ms 37 ms 41 ms atl-pcor-04.inet.qwest.net [67.14.14.170]
8 37 ms 36 ms 35 ms 63.144.15.54
9 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms border10.tge3-1-bbnet1.acs.pnap.net [64.94.0.12]

10 34 ms 36 ms 35 ms c-64-94-238-29.internap-atlanta.nfoservers.com [
64.94.238.29]


passerby

join:2013-03-22
Monroe, MI

You posted the same traceroute for your examples.


passerby

join:2013-03-22
Monroe, MI
reply to Killa

Ultimately, that's peering and routing for ya.

Being physically close to a server doesn't mean you're going to get a better route to it versus a server that's physically farther away.


zed260
Premium
join:2011-11-11
Cleveland, TN
reply to Killa

the number of hops does not matter its the latency to them that does

charter routes all there traffic through there on backbone which is what your seeing as far as possible till they offload to another provider it saves them money that way


Phatty

join:2000-05-10
Valley Park, MO
reply to Killa

Overall ever since Charter started having their own network between cities to delay the hand off to Internet Peers I would say their routing has gone down hill. Overall though network performance remains about the same, but the average trace route to sites is several hopes longer than it was a few years back.


Tarball

join:2006-06-09
Saint Louis, MO

said by Phatty:

Overall ever since Charter started having their own network between cities to delay the hand off to Internet Peers I would say their routing has gone down hill. Overall though network performance remains about the same, but the average trace route to sites is several hopes longer than it was a few years back.

More hops isn't always bad. I've actually had improved routing since Charter implemented their own backbone. Now most of my traffic goes out through Chicago, which is only ~15ms from St. Louis. They used to push out most of their St. Louis traffic through a crappy XO link that would add 40ms to any connection going through it. They've since improved that link to only add about 15ms of latency.

Still doesn't beat the direct AT&T link they had back in the day, though. 5ms ping to St. Louis game servers!