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sharkman

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Concrete question building on Quik Tubes

Looking for some suggestions - I am building an approved 14 x 24 foot building on 12 " 40 " deep quik tubes - would you use quikrete 1101 concrete mix the old standard or quikrete 5000



nunya
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Been there, done that. I'd buy a ready-mix delivery.



Msradell
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Like Nunya I would use ready makes but if you're intent on doing it yourself the old standard 1101 to be fine, there's no need for the 5000.


Hellrazor

join:2002-02-02
Abyss, PA
reply to nunya

said by nunya:

Been there, done that. I'd buy a ready-mix delivery.

X2. We poured about 16 tubes 36" deep for someones shed and it was a PITA.


alkizmo

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reply to nunya

How do you get a ready mix concrete truck in your backyard without destroying the turf?

It's a real question, not rhetorical, I'm assuming there is a way, maybe smaller trucks?



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Extra trough (pipe it). Wheel barrow (huff it). Buggy (huff it even heavier). Walk behind with a bucket attachment.
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Tig

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reply to sharkman

Not what you asked, so forgive me, but check your local building code on those tube dimensions. Around here code calls for a diameter that must be a minimum of 1/3 the length. There's also a spec on the required footing, about 4 sq ft for a single story building.


Beezel

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said by alkizmo:

How do you get a ready mix concrete truck in your backyard without destroying the turf?

It's a real question, not rhetorical, I'm assuming there is a way, maybe smaller trucks?

Concrete pumper. Has a boom with pipes and the delivery truck dumps it in the hopper. The other truck pumps it to where you need it.


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said by Beezel:

said by alkizmo:

How do you get a ready mix concrete truck in your backyard without destroying the turf?

It's a real question, not rhetorical, I'm assuming there is a way, maybe smaller trucks?

Concrete pumper. Has a boom with pipes and the delivery truck dumps it in the hopper. The other truck pumps it to where you need it.

The problem is that pump trucks are also quite expensive and they charge a fee per cubic yard also. They really are not practical for a small job. Something like this a couple of wheelbarrows is the only practical way to move the ready mix.


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said by Msradell:

The problem is that pump trucks are also quite expensive and they charge a fee per cubic yard also. They really are not practical for a small job. Something like this a couple of wheelbarrows is the only practical way to move the ready mix.

How much will the ready mix company probably charge for the wheelbarrow and operator? Do many ready mix companies offer that service at a reasonable charge?

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They're in the business to deliver concrete, not pour it. Go to HD and see if you can find a day laborer to do it if your not able, else hire a contractor/handyman. Usually the truck allows 10 min per yard to pour it before they tack on additional time.

It's my impression that a pump truck starts at $500 to showup/setup. Then it goes from there. Not all red-I-mix places have their own pumper. If not they know who to call.


Beezel

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Las Vegas, NV

said by kherr:

They're in the business to deliver concrete, not pour it. Go to HD and see if you can find a day laborer to do it if your not able.

Here in Vegas you don't have to look for a day laborer, they mob you when you go to leave the lot. Same goes for U-Haul.
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Re: Concrete question building on Quik Tubes

said by Tig:

Not what you asked, so forgive me, but check your local building code on those tube dimensions. Around here code calls for a diameter that must be a minimum of 1/3 the length. There's also a spec on the required footing, about 4 sq ft for a single story building.

When I built in Texas, code also required that the diameter of the footing be 3x the largest post measure. So to use a 4x6 or 6x6, you had to use the 18" tubes, not the 12". (and they were a real pain to find)

There are online calculators that will tell you exactly how much concrete you will need. You just plug in the diameter of the tube, and the total feet/inches you are using between all of them. It takes about 10 to 14 trips with a wheelbarrow (depending on it's size) to move 1 yard of concrete. But you would need 45 80lb bags of quickcrete (72 50lb bags) to get the same 1 yard.

Generally, the more ready-mix concrete you have delivered, the cheaper it is per yard, because getting the truck there is a factor on the first few yards. Even still, when I poured footings in Austin, it cost me a couple bucks less to have a truck bring out just 1 yard, than to buy the bags and mix it myself. I just rounded up some friends, and we ran 2 wheelbarrows with a 3rd guy supervising pouring into the footings. The other advantage is that you can get much larger aggregate in the ready mix. 2" stone versus the pea gravel in quickcrete.