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Re: Windows 8.1 Ad with Start Button

Re: Windows 8.1 Ad with Start Button

Landing on a window with 50 or 200 non icon icons, trying to search through such a massive alphabet soup mess to find the one icon, the one app I need to use is a royal PITA. Even on my iPhone I can group/nest like apps to make them easier to find. The Start Menu already does that, it's alphabetized, numerized, groupized, and hierchical. It works great and isn't hard on the eyes. A wall of messy icons is just Windows 3.22 all over again but WITHOUT the great grouping scheme. Sorry, but trying to say we are immature because we're angry over it isn't fair.
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Remaining in any one position for long periods of time without moving is detrimental--and next to impossible unless you're unconscious; you don't even do it when you're asleep. As I understand it though, with a standing desk you're mostly leaning (which can be quite comfortable). Anyway, sometimes we need to sit, sometimes we need to stand, but more than anything else, we always need to move. (And having a Start Menu wouldn't hurt either. )

I've recently found that "looking" for something there is less than satisfying; "searching" is somewhat more fruitful. At this point, the Start screen is something of an "Ultimate Launchy" app: just start typing to get a short-list. I think my non-techie sister will love it.

You'd love ClassicShell. You can get an XP/2000-like Start menu with a run/search box at the bottom a la Vista/7. It's perfect.
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I'm still on Win7 & plan to stay there. My sister is moving from XP to 8 since that's what's on her new el cheapo PC (which is replacing her 10+ year old PC which stopped working); as long as she can get to some browser, I don't think she'll much care about starting other stuff 99.9% of the time. (She likes the "pretty" tiles though. )

Re: Windows 8.1 Ad with Start Button

The Start Screen however, can't do this:

That is correct. You don't get the hierarchical directory listing of folders and sub-folders on the Start Screen. It is all one big view.

Personally for me, that was never an issue. When I ran Windows 7, I had nothing on that first part, and everything under "All Programs". My most used items would be out of folders and just listed on the 2nd screen. Everything else was in folders under that. I also did not have sub-folders (never liked them on the start menu, even back with XP).

With XP and Windows 7, I hated to see a big start menu, so I have always tried to limit the number of icons that were put there, the exception being Accessories or System Tools that came with Windows. For example, if an application installed multiple shortcuts (Quicken is a good example), I would delete all but just the one that I need to launch the application. In the case of Quicken, I delete the shortcut for the Bill reminder app, shortcuts for things on the web, the uninstall, the readme, and so on. You can see this with how I have Windows 8 configured as well. On my "All Apps" screen, that is what it is: Applications. The "default" ones that come with Windows are under the headings of "Windows Accessories", "Windows Ease of Access", and "Windows System Tools". You can see all the applications that I have installed (Adobe Reader, DosBox, Winzip, Winamp, etc). But as you can see, none of the other extra icons or shortcuts that come with those programs are even shown, as I took extra steps to clean up and modify the directory structure, and remove the shortcuts that I did not need. If I ever did need something, I could just go find the EXE or the file itself, as its probably stored somewhere in the Program Files folders.

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I don't understand how you can stand the ugliness of Metro start screen. It is not possible to make it nice looking or transparent. Metro, all of it, is so extremely ugly that it doesn't matter what you can do like you have done.

I finally am reasonably ok with Windows 8 but ONLY because I have Start8 and, even more importantly, Windows Blinds. I am developing my own skin with MY COLORS, MY FONTS, etc AND FULL TRANSPARENCY OF WINDOWS. So, I finally get what Microsoft (and Nivida for the transparency) gave me in ALL previous versions of Windows but decided I didn't deserve in Windows 8.

I really can't understand how anyone can actually like the hideous backgrounds, fonts and forced colors that are Windows 8 Metro and to a large extent also Windows 8 desktop. Microsoft gave us the basic right to choose what we liked in all versions of Windows prior to Windows 8 and the sad fact that they decided to take all that away and ram their colors, their backgrounds, their choice of no transparency, their awful Segoe font or be damned as no other Windows font is available, etc makes them deserve only disdain. Windows has always been about making it YOURS...until Windows 8. You have made menus and Metro Start "yours" but what you have been able to do is very crippled. I will not allow Microsoft to treat me in such a shabby manner. Windows Blinds is a godsend especially if you teach yourself how to make your own skin.
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Have you come across this: »punchcut.com/perspectives/posts/···anifesto (all about the Win8 design etc. -- some interesting stuff)?

Why are you such a blowhard over it? It's so hideous, it's awful.... Get over yourself.

How about you do us all a favor, and stop using Windows then? Spend a month using linux, lets see how quickly you start realizing that windows is stable, and works so you can bitch about the gui like it's the end of the world. So please, go use linux for a month, we could use the peace, and quiet.
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You are not making sense. If my posts bother you so much then put my posts on "ignore". Simple fix.

Instead of "either/or", I think it's more of a "both/and" situation.